Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nick H. Nugent" 
<nghin@p...> wrote:

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> 
> 
> > I think the 9800 is capable of matching the Epson 1280 in print 
> > quality, but there's no aftermarket supplies for HP products!...
> 
> This is strange. I thought Weink would have 3rd party ink for your
> printer but no such luck. They have the pigmented black for the 99
> cart but none for the 98. I'm not that familiar with HP printer as 
the
> Designjet 30 is my first.


Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant there are no sources for 
empty cartridges. They do have Vivera-compatible ink, which I have 
ordered and am presently using.


> 
> > I've been warned by Bob Headrick that the pigmented inks may 
produce 
> > a sticky residue on the printheads and printer wipers....
> 
> Sounds like I should not even try to use my Epson inks on the HP  :
( 
> The Designjet 30 has 4 picoliter droplets. You may want to try the 
new
> HP pigmented inkset made for the new HP Designjet 5500 instead of
> Epson ink. As a matter of fact I was looking into this possibility.
> I'm also looking at the HP Vivera monochrome inks. The HP 5500 is
> still new so I'll wait and see if it will be prone to clogging as 
well.
> 


Thanks for the tip. You should not have to use Epson pigmented inks. 
WeInk has a bulk outlet that sells HP-compatible pigmented inks. The 
url is getinkexpress.com . But I would not know which to recommend 
for you. Call their toll-free number 800-559-3465.

That being said, I have read that the newer Epson print heads are 
designed around a 3 pL droplet, so these pigmented inks should work 
fine with your 5 pL heads, right?


> > I'll be glad to let you know what happens with the MIS 
experiment. 
> > Then there's the issue of which paper to print on.
> 
> If you succeed in using the MIS Epson inks in your HP you should be
> able to print on almost anything 
>

 
That's what I'd like!


>providing your printer driver has
> certain ability to perform some sort of ink limitting. But I still
> think Epson printers tend to be able to print on more media than 
HPs.
> 
 

I plan to "trick" the printer into using the 9800's standard driver 
profile for the tri-color and photo-gray carts (which are used to 
make high-quality grayscale prints) by using the appropriate MIS 
substitues. These inks were made for six color printers like the 
Epson 220/320 with a direct replacement for C, M, Y, K, light C and 
light M. 

You mentioned flushing the old carts prior to refilling. Do you 
recommend any particular product or technique for this?


> > Who knows, maybe I'll publish a web page on my "HP experiments" 
and 
> > become famous! LOL.
> 
> I have benefitted from pioneers like you especially in this area of
> digital inkjet b/w. 


Thanks for the vote of confidence, but "tinkerer" would be a better 
description of my abilities. :0)


>I've always wanted an inkjet printer that is like
> a Beseler enlarger and dark room equipments which do not care 
whether
> you are dealing with Kodak or Ilford or whatever films or papers. 
You
> should be able to use any ink, dial up or down the amount of ink
> deposited on a paper, etc. 
>


I share your desires in this regard. Perhaps one day we will get to 
this point. 

Sonrise