Digital BW, The Print

Jeff,

I'm interested in your experiment with using the Epson Dye substituted for
the MIS VM Black. I did the same thing with Cone's Color Piezography. I used
Generations Beta Black instead of Cone's Black and the images had far more
dynamic range. Unfortunately there was no way to keep the yellow ink
flowing, but that is a different matter.

I think I am going to put Generations black into my 1160 in place of the MIS
VM black and I am wondering if it will change the curves at all. Did you
have to tweak Paul's curves to adjust for the denser black?

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Magidson" <jeffm@...>
To: "digital bw group" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:26 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] MIS Inkset W/ Epson Black


>
> Hey Everyone;
>
> Following the thread about substituting the MIS VM black with the Epson
> OEM black I decided to give it a try.
>
> I'm printing on a 1280 and I ran a few prints on LPM & EAM. Comparing
> the same exact file printed with the full MIS VM inkset.
>
> The blacks on prints with the Epson OEM black ink are MUCH better and
> true. The blacks with the pigment inks have always looked a bit
> transparent to me.
>
> About print viewing lighting:
>
> One thing I have noticed since I started making prints with pigment
> inks. They tend to look better under diffused lighting <indirect window
> light>  than under  Spot / track lights or a desk lamp. To me, this is
> the exact opposite of every other type of photographic prints I have
> ever made < b&w silver prints, C-prints, Ciba prints>.  Traditional
> photographic prints always look more brilliant under gallery type spot
> lighting. I think the weakness / transparency of the blacks in the
> pigment prints is the culprit. Using the Epson OEM black seems to solve
> this problem... but as debated on here... how stable is that black ink?
>
> -Jeff
>
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