Digital BW, The Print

Well I've just done a lot of work on this excellent paper and I'll
look at all the ones I still have inhouse and get back to you
tomorrow. I've never heard of such a thing. I have a 24" roll right
here so I'll roll it out under strong light and take a look see.

John



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
"tariqgibranstudio" <tariqgibranstudio@...> wrote:
>
> John,
> 
> The flaws are very subtle, little tiny specks really sort of like if
you touched a ball point 
> pen tip to the paper.  It might be something that most people would
not notice.  I have yet 
> to get ANY Museum Etching rolls which do not exhibit this.  It
usually also is on at least 
> one sheet of the 17"x22" size in each pack.  I'm sure it must have
something to do with 
> the manufacturing process.  Other than that, it is definately my
favorite paper at the 
> moment.  It is more durable than German Etching as it is 100% Cotton
Rag, not the weaker 
> Alpha Cellulose of the German Etching.  I have yet to see any
flaking with it which I 
> occasionally saw with German Etching but of course now I always
brush the paper before 
> printing.  It just irks me a bit that I'm paying more for the Museum
Etching and I have yet 
> to see a perfect roll or Box.  On a rolls, its not just one dot but
many every so many feet 
> vertically but only one horizontally.  If you look closely, I bet
you will notice it.  I would be 
> curious to hear from anyone else who has seen this or might know why
these dots are 
> there.  They were not there on the German Etching at all.
> 
> Tariq
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
<deanwork2003@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Tariq,
> > 
> > Oh no. That is terrible. No, I've seen no flaws in the about 4 rolls
> > of the Museum Etching that I've used so far. I don't know if this is
> > just my experience or not but this paper seems a lot more durable than
> > German Etching, far less tender, and I've been putting a lot blacks
> > down on it. It seems  more like the Innova coating but with better
> > dmax. I sure hope I don't experience any problem because this is my
> > new favourite paper because I'll send it back, immediately. I'm about
> > to do two large portfolios with this stuff and I can't deal with that.
> > 
> > I'll tell you right now I've been using Hahnemuhle papers for about 6
> > years, every month, and never have I had a quality control problem of
> > any kind. It has been my most consistently good media. I don't think
> > that is luck, I think it is a good German craftsmanship. I will keep a
> > look out though. Thanks for the forewarning. 
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  I see these small tiny black or gray dots every so many feet.  Looks
> > like 
> > > where a machine has handled or marked it.  Never ever saw this with
> > German Etching and 
> > > its a real issue as It will almost invaribly end up in a white
> > border or margin ever so often 
> > > unless I waste some of this very expensive paper.  Have you seen
this?  
> > > 
> > > Tariq
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
> > <deanwork2003@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For the life of me I can't understand you guys paying that kind of
> > > > money for sheet of rag media. To me it is just not even
something I
> > > > would remotely consider at those prices. I have only had one issue
> > > > with using good roll media, and that is flattening the prints
> > > > afterwards, and that is certainly no big deal for me. I brush the
> > > > media quickly while on the machine with a large drafting
brush, and I
> > > > have no flaking problems at all anymore. But the key for me
was when I
> > > > bought the 53" Rototrim paper cutter that will accept the
width of the
> > > > lare rolls, it costs $700.00. But I got it half price with a
teacher
> > > > discount. This self sharpening device has been my most loyal
friend
> > > > for 5 years and is still like new. 
> > > > 
> > > > As a matter of fact for roll paper I am using the very thick
> > > > Hahnemuhle Museum Etching rag now at 350 gsm and the 9600 cuts
through
> > > > it completely just fine. Even the old 7000 scores is so well I
just
> > > > tear it off very easily, however usually what I do in a print
run is
> > > > stroke the edges of each print in PS with a thin grey line and
take
> > > > them to the Rototrim all at once with a number of prints on
that roll.
> > > > I couldn't imagine sitting here feeding a sheet at a time like
a robot
> > > > all day. I'd rather be in the other room watching a DVD or or
working
> > > > on the drum scaner or another printer. What I would really like to
> > > > have is one of those mechanized roll up devices for the bottom
of the
> > > > printer that would allow you to print a half a roll or more at
a time
> > > > out of a good rip. Now that would make me money while I sleep.
I do
> > > > all my proofing of many things at once and evaluate all that way
> > > > before the final output.
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > >
> > >
> >
>