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Re: Fratzin-Ratzin 1160 black head clog....

2002-01-14 by boyerwood

Thanks so much for the info.  I have cleaned, purged, changed, 
squirted, cussed, sucked, blown, sprayed, cycled...you name 
it....spent megabucks and have a useless machine right now.  This was 
a NEW printer bought especially for the cone inks!  The software 
costs were outrageous.  I went with the cone system for the WYSIWYG, 
but now see that was not worth 300 bucks.  The actual print driver 
was not very versital...of course there is a new version...but 70 
bucks to upgrade!!  when I had just shelled out 300??  Needless to 
say I have not had to kick myself twice.  I will try to get my black 
head cleared and go MIS.  The folks at cone have been nice...I have 
no complaint about that. 
Thanks again...
> Steve
> 
> I installed piezo and after a week had the clog of death problem. I 
> did all the things you did with pretty much the same result. As a 
> last ditch I put cleaning carts in and ran the &^%$ out of them... 
> Left them in for over a week, running them with clean and nozzle 
> checks maybe once a day or on the odd day. I put the epson carts 
back 
> in and ran some purges and nozzle checks and it finally cleared.
> 
> Once I put the MIS inks in, all my problems went away... I ran them 
> for about four sets of carts (FS) and then put in a CIS system and 
> haven't had a single problem after about a month so far. I use the 
FS 
> inks on the piezo system (mostly <g>).
> 
> I don't really know if this is all from the piezo ink or the epson 
(I 
> had a little problem getting Lyson sg ink to work in a 
reconditioned 
> 1160, but it, too, finally just started working fine). I think the 
> CIS system is better than carts. I'm SURE that using the printer a 
> lot improves the clarity. I'm still frustrated that piezo ink 
> wouldn't work, but the MIS FS and VM with Paul Roark curves makes 
> prints that are excellent (I really didn't make enough with piezo 
to 
> have a direct comparison).
> 
> Persistence and patience will work, I think...don't be afraid to 
soak 
> it and let it sit.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Tom O'Connell
> 
> TomOC@y...
> www.thomasoconnell.com
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "boyerwood" 
> <boyerwood@a...> wrote:
> > I have the Cone inks in my 1160.  I did the full start up with 
the 
> > flu$h cartridge and all.  Almost from the very beginning, my 
black 
> > head seemed to clog.  When I run a nozzle check...I get a dash 
here 
> > and there on the black line, and get perfect check on all three 
> > grays.  I have run the head cleaning over and over, I have done 
the 
> > Windex procedure...I have done the Windex procedure with 
> > Fantastic...I have even done the emergency, last ditch 
> recommendation 
> > from Cone of removing the carts and using a syringe with a rubber 
> > tube attached...injected windex into the nipple of the black 
> intake, 
> > and forcing windex through the head and then drawing it back 
> out...  
> > I get the same nozzle check over and over.  I have even bought 
new 
> > Epson carts for it and run the cleaning over and over (the Epson 
> inks 
> > are suppose to have a solvent in them)  NO CHANGE.  same nozzle 
> check 
> > pattern.  Are the Cone inks the most prone to clog??  Should I 
just 
> > send my printer for service (new print head) and cringe at the 
> repair 
> > bill (can't find a new 1160 to save your life)...  I like the 
Cone 
> > system and software...but geez....$$$$$ for all.  Their inks are 
> > pricey, and although I have over $300 in the software, it does me 
> no 
> > good if all the ink does is clog my printer.  Are there any dye 
> based 
> > inks that are quadtone??  Is there any rumor Epson will produce 
> quad 
> > sets for their printers?  I own a 1160, 860, and 1270.  I don't 
> want 
> > to put the carts in my 860 and have it be ruined too...it's my 
day 
> to 
> > day printer...  I am ready to go MIS if there is less clog 
> > problem..it is frustrating to the extreme...  Thanks...Steve

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