Digital BW, The Print

No, I haven't, cool, I'll check them out. I have been using the DCP
liquid acrylic/laytex varnish for my canvas work and I have nothing
but good things to say about it. I did roll the satin varnish on a
print and it looked a little too much like rc surface for me. But I
will try the spray as I didn't know they offered one. You can put the
 Premier Art Eco varnish (according to them) in a low pressure high
volume sprayer, I've been told by others, don't bother, it isn't the
same as the solvent invisible surface quality. 

john


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen "
<e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> John, Have you tried the DCP sprays? And if some one is looking for
a "looks
> like"...  I Really like the 1:1 satin to glossy light spray of DCP
on Innova
> Photo Smooth and Cranes Museo Max. 
> 
> AS for a glass to make it hide? There are some glasses that are
spendy such
> as Demi glass that might do the trick. 
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photography
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>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
john
> > dean
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:10 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Framing Glass to hide Silver Rag Luster??
> > 
> > With the glossy rc papers and even with Silver Rag with most inksets,
> > such as Ultrachrome K2, the Premier Art Spray does eliminate the gloss
> > differential relief look which for me compromises those surfaces. With
> > Epson K3 the Silver Rag does in my opinion benefit from the Premier
> > Art or Lyson Printguard sprays and evens out that sheen. But K3 looks
> > pretty good to me without it on Silver Rag but not with the Epson rc
> > gloss papers which still have unacceptable bronzing and gloss diff
> > problems.
> > 
> > The main reason I use these sprays though is 1. to provide permanence
> > protection 2. provide surface protection. We all know how vulnerable
> > these prints are when handled and not behind glass, especially the
> > blacks. However, Epson's new inks are tougher, and Cones new pigments
> > are really tough, and almost completely waterproof.
> > 
> > Do the sprays stink, yes. Are they toxic, hell yes. Is Premier Art
> > delivering on its promise to provide an aerisol spray for an Eco,
> > non-toxic spray that does not adversly change the surface of the
> > print. No they are not. I'm still waiting. We're totally there for
> > canvas with the uv acrylic varnishes, but prints... we need a safer
> > solution.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley"
> > <tyler@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree with this wholeheartedly. But primarily, I don't see the
need
> > > to fix something that only looks irritating when lit in such a way
> > > that you can't look at the image anyway. ???
> > > More to the point, I doubt there is such a glass. Others could
comment
> > > on sprays, but I've yet to see a post here with an "this paper/spray
> > > is it!" exclaimation.
> > > On other papers over the years, I've played with Krylon, Lascaux
> > > (sp?), Golden, and Print Guard. I found no particular advantage, but
> > > mostly, just plane hated working with sprays of questionable
toxicity
> > > and environmental impact. They all smelled like they wouldn't
pass the
> > > canary test, and my dog ran away from them.
> > > Tyler
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Cort Anderson
> > > <cort@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just don't understand the need to try and exactly duplicate the
> > > > look of a silver print with inkjet. Yes, inkjet prints on matte
> > > > papers have their own unique look, what is wrong with it? What if
> > all
> > > > through out the history of photography the main concern was to
make
> > > > all new technology look just like the old technology, where would
> > we be?
> > > >
> > > > cort
> > > >
> > > > On May 17, 2006, at 6:30 PM, bobbysandstrom wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > When viewing silver rag under the proper lighting, you can NOT
> > tell
> > > > > the difference between an
> > > > > HSR made on a 4800 with K3 inks and a traditional Silver Gelatin
> > FB
> > > > > print. The obvious telltale
> > > > > sign is the paper surface when viewed under the wrong angle of
> > > > > light. This got me wondering
> > > > > if there exists a glass that could be used to frame that would
> > > > > conceal the surface texture. Or,
> > > > > is there a spray that'll do that without killing the glow of the
> > > > > print.
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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