Digital BW, The Print

Hi Carl & Gang

 

Yes Here�s My Take..and its Not only with the Innova But with all three
papers.. I Havent played with the material as much as we would have liked
her at Shades..because I found it to be more beneficial to get the material
out to actual users who print for pay or print for themselves and sell their
work..as we all need to make a living..LOL.. I find that with each batch the
coating is getting better and the paper surface a tad smoother. On The
Innova I found that the black labeled product was a smoother batch than the
blue labeled product. On the Hahnemuhle I have received The rolls that were
actually labeled wrong was the best batch yet.. On the Crane it seems to be
getting better as I was Told I will be getting 8.5x11 sheets tomorrow off of
the 4th run..Horray at last! And Crane has reported to me a smoother coating
and surface Ill check a box when it arrives..

 

I believe That as more of this paper is made the better it will become. All
three have been rushing to get this product to the market and the demand has
been overwhelming and when they rush things get by..thats my best answer..

 

And My take

 

Thanks Gang for all of the support!

 

Now if I can Ask a question to the group�Is there any products that I am not
carrying that I should be? 

 

And Tell me which paper everyone likes out of these new papers..I enjoy
hearing the comments..As I am still struggling with these papers as I really
like the rag papers and Matt black inks..

 

Cheers to ALL!!

 

Jim Doyle

 

J. Doyle Enterprises LLC

114 Old Orchard Rd

Cherry Hill NJ 08003

856-424-8660

HYPERLINK "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"www.shadesofpaper.com

 

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Schofield
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 5:37 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Innova glossy: Inconsistent mill runs?

 

Guess I've never seen the "smooth" good stuff. The deep "stippling" 
is present on all of the F-type that I have right now (17x22 and 
11x17 inch sheets). Jim Doyle has probably seen more of this paper 
than most of us so he may be able to comment more on consistency.

On Jun 20, 2006, at 2:53 PM, Kirk Thompson wrote:

> I'm surprised to encounter so much inconsistency in the Innova F- 
> Type surface.
>
> A couple of weeks ago I borrowed some sample sheets from a lab/ 
> printer in my building.
> We thought the surface was unattractive - not like an air-dried 
> gelatin silver paper, but
> stippled or indented.
>
> But I tried again: After reading Michael Reichmann's Luminous 
> Landscape review that
> praised the paper, I wondered if I'd seen a bad lot. I tried a new 
> package of letter-sized
> paper. Out-of-the-box, the surface looked a little different, and 
> prints on it looked
> noticeably better - smoother surface, higher reflectance, & less 
> (though still slightly)
> stippled. I was won over by it & sent some targets off for color 
> profiling. The blacks on
> the target prints looked very deep & I could see why Michael was 
> impressed.
>
> Planning to print a portfolio on it, I bought two packages of 
> 17x22" paper - only to find
> that they matched not the letter-sized paper, but the 'cardboard'- 
> surfaced version I'd
> seen at first.
>
> I subsequently got a private e-mail from a member of this forum, 
> saying that the first
> batches or runs of F-Type did look somewhat different.
>
> I've sent an request to Innova for a return or replacement 
> authorization of what I suppose
> was a bad batch or early version. I understood that the 17x22" 
> packages had been sent to
> my dealer quite recently, so apparently it's still being sent out 
> in some sizes or to some
> dealers.
>
> I'd urge anyone interested in trying the paper to be sure they can 
> return it if it looks
> deeply stippled, or simply inconsistent.

 


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