Digital BW, The Print

I'm using MIS K4 inks (equivalent to epson K3) in my 4000.  I don't  
use the LLK ink.  I make my own profiles for color and B&W printing  
using the ColorBurst X-Photo RIP and also QTR for toned B&W.  I also  
use the MIS K4 inks (with the LLK) in my 2400 printer, also with  
custom profiles.  I don't really see any differences between prints  
made with and without LLK in terms of tonal smoothness, GD, or bronzing.

On Jul 10, 2006, at 8:30 AM, Stephen M Martin wrote:

> Did I read correctly that you are using the K3 ink in a 4000? May I  
> ask how? Thanks.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carl Schofield
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] fibaprint gloss/ da vinci users
>
> MIS K4 PK does seem to give me slightly lower dmax compared to Epson
> K3 PK. I get about 2.1 to 2.2 for Innova F Type in both my 2400 and
> 4000. Silver Rag and Hahnemuhle Pearl do better with dmax closer to
> 2.3 - 2.4.
>
> Carl
>
> On Jul 9, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Shilesh Jani wrote:
>
> > Using Epson 4000 loaded with K3 (4800) PK ink, QTR 1440
> > Super/Better/Ordered I am getting 2.5 when measured with Heiland PM
> > Densitometer. This is NOT a colorimeter.
> >
> > From experience I know this will dry-down to ~2.4+ overnight. A  
> light
> > coat of PrintShield usually bring this up to 2.6+
> >
> > I am getting the same results +/- 0.05D with the K3 PK in 2400
> > printer.
> >
> > Dmax usually comes in at 75% or 80% ink limits.
> >
> > Ernst, maybe it is the MIS PK ink?
> >
> > Shilesh
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla
> > <E.Dinkla@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Greg wrote:
> >>
> >>> I looked into the dmax numbers a little, and I thik I have a
> > vague
> >>> idea of why they are getting such low numbers. It might (stress
> >>> might) be simply a difference between the measurement mode being
> >>> used. Most of us are using Status T for density, yet the Xrite
> > 810
> >>> says it uses Status A (reflection and still has a 2.5D spec),
> > while
> >>> they may be using Status E measurements to reach the 2.7D. I saw
> > a
> >>> fleeting reference to the difference between Status T and Status
> > E
> >>> being that the E value may be lower. I haven't had the time to go
> > and
> >>> research it yet, so if someone knows what the differences are, or
> > has
> >>> the time to go looking, there might be an answer.
> >>
> >> Greg,
> >>
> >> I'm busy calibrating Fibaprint Gloss F with a Spectrocam and
> >> do not get a higher Dmax than 1.94 with MIS UT PK on an Epson
> >> 9000. I do not see much difference between the Status T, A or
> >> E with this spectrometer. And the lowest L is 11.80. With QTR
> >> I have to limit on 60 in the calibration strip as there's no D
> >> gain above that. Boosting doesn't help either. I have used the
> >> Premium Glossy Photo Paper setting in QTR but do not expect
> >> any difference with other settings and 1440 unidirectional.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions to get a higher Dmax ?
> >>
> >> Ernst
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ernst Dinkla
> >>
> >>
> >> www.pigment-print.com
> >> ( unvollendet )
> >>
>


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