Digital BW, The Print

What a disappointment. When I saw the FSN UT set I assumed that it  
was the solution to a totally neutral grey. Then when I saw that you  
had created a downloadable curve for it I figured you supported it,  
so I bought two sets. I guess there's a lesson there.

Mike
On Aug 25, 2006, at 2:27 PM, Paul Roark wrote:

> The FS inksets (now called UT-FS) are monotone inksets that were  
> made as
> clones of the PiezoBW inksets such that they could be used with  
> that driver,
> which I once used. The light inks (M & Y positions) are not Epson  
> standard
> densities, and particularly the M position ink is an odd-ball  
> density that I
> don't think makes sense with modern printers. (The Y position ink  
> still is
> useful in the 3000 and 7000 class of printers.) The UT-FS inksets  
> use the
> same basic pigments as the UT2 (aside from the UT2 sepia, which  
> includes
> some yellow, which is a relative weakling), and would, thus, be  
> about as
> archival as the UT2 inkset when all but the sepia curves are used.  
> There is
> no FS-Carbon, however. The warmest the FS inkset can go is medium  
> warm.
> The FS has 50% of the cool pigments in it as the FSN.
>
> I at one point made monotone curves so that the FS inksets could be  
> used on
> many hextone printers. It was an early attempt at an easy-to-use  
> inkset. I
> would not do that now with the 1280.
>
> I do not have a 1280, but I would seriously consider the UT-R2  
> inkset for it
> if you don't need sepia. The UT-R2 is intended as the "EZ" inkset  
> for all
> hextone and above Epson printers. For most people a monotone inkset  
> that
> can be used with either the Epson sliders or the Epson driver with  
> a simple
> monotone curve or ICC made with Roy's "Create ICC" program makes  
> the easiest
> to live with system. The use of all of the inks (as opposed to the  
> sepia
> (Y) ink being shut off) also will produce a better print on many  
> printers.
>
> I don't know what MIS sales look like, but if I were running that  
> company
> I'd seriously consider stopping selling all UT-FS inksets except  
> bulk Y
> position for the older printers. (Perhaps special order pints or  
> more of
> the others.) The R2 in bulk can do almost everything. A 1280 with
> spongeless cart and R2 inks might be an interesting affordable 13"  
> solution.
>
> Paul
>
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>
>
> _____
>
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  
> Craig
> Roberts
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:38 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] UT-2 vs. UT-FS / FSN
>
> I've been using MIS UT-2 inksets with Paul's workflows and curves  
> in my
> Epson 1280 and am very pleased with the results. I was wondering,
> however, if -- flexibility of tone aside -- what the difference  
> between
> a UT-2 and an UT-FS or FSN inkset is. Are the resulting prints the  
> same
> with regard to range and longevity?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig
> Washington, DC
>
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