Digital BW, The Print

The FS curves are still there.  I just would do something different today.
You'll be able to make fine prints with it.  However, I suspect the number
of old Piezo software users and users of printers that need the light inks
is shrinking substantially.  

One problem I've had with the early inksets is that all that light ink
overloads the glossy papers.  In fact, I just had to re-do my 7500 FSN+
profile for Premier Art 205 because it was overloading that paper, which I
happen to like.  The UT2 also came out of the experience with the UT1
overloading papers.  Too much light ink is a problem for many papers.

On my web page, the newer inksets tend to be those on the top of the index.
Given the progress that is being made in this technology, I'd tend to favor
the new over the old.  I don't know how the FS even with PK will do on Crane
Silver Rag, but I, personally, would definitely want an inkset that does
well on that paper.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Kitei
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:50 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] UT-2 vs. UT-FS / FSN
> 
> What a disappointment. When I saw the FSN UT set I assumed that it
> was the solution to a totally neutral grey. Then when I saw that you
> had created a downloadable curve for it I figured you supported it,
> so I bought two sets. I guess there's a lesson there.
> 
> Mike
> On Aug 25, 2006, at 2:27 PM, Paul Roark wrote:
> 
> > The FS inksets (now called UT-FS) are monotone inksets that were
> > made as
> > clones of the PiezoBW inksets such that they could be used with
> > that driver,
> > which I once used. The light inks (M & Y positions) are not Epson
> > standard
> > densities, and particularly the M position ink is an odd-ball
> > density that I
> > don't think makes sense with modern printers. (The Y position ink
> > still is
> > useful in the 3000 and 7000 class of printers.) The UT-FS inksets
> > use the
> > same basic pigments as the UT2 (aside from the UT2 sepia, which
> > includes
> > some yellow, which is a relative weakling), and would, thus, be
> > about as
> > archival as the UT2 inkset when all but the sepia curves are used.
> > There is
> > no FS-Carbon, however. The warmest the FS inkset can go is medium
> > warm.
> > The FS has 50% of the cool pigments in it as the FSN.
> >
> > I at one point made monotone curves so that the FS inksets could be
> > used on
> > many hextone printers. It was an early attempt at an easy-to-use
> > inkset. I
> > would not do that now with the 1280.
> >
> > I do not have a 1280, but I would seriously consider the UT-R2
> > inkset for it
> > if you don't need sepia. The UT-R2 is intended as the "EZ" inkset
> > for all
> > hextone and above Epson printers. For most people a monotone inkset
> > that
> > can be used with either the Epson sliders or the Epson driver with
> > a simple
> > monotone curve or ICC made with Roy's "Create ICC" program makes
> > the easiest
> > to live with system. The use of all of the inks (as opposed to the
> > sepia
> > (Y) ink being shut off) also will produce a better print on many
> > printers.
> >
> > I don't know what MIS sales look like, but if I were running that
> > company
> > I'd seriously consider stopping selling all UT-FS inksets except
> > bulk Y
> > position for the older printers. (Perhaps special order pints or
> > more of
> > the others.) The R2 in bulk can do almost everything. A 1280 with
> > spongeless cart and R2 inks might be an interesting affordable 13"
> > solution.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Craig
> > Roberts
> > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:38 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] UT-2 vs. UT-FS / FSN
> >
> > I've been using MIS UT-2 inksets with Paul's workflows and curves
> > in my
> > Epson 1280 and am very pleased with the results. I was wondering,
> > however, if -- flexibility of tone aside -- what the difference
> > between
> > a UT-2 and an UT-FS or FSN inkset is. Are the resulting prints the
> > same
> > with regard to range and longevity?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Craig
> > Washington, DC
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> 
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