Gary, I have been only using papers that use the photo black ink. These include Silver Rag, F-Gloss, F-Gloss warm tone, and Epson Premium Luster. They all print great. I created my own profiles but the Epson Prem. Luster profile is very good and the best Epson profile I have ever seen. I also have an Epson 4000, which has the Ultrachrome inks. The prints on the 3800 are noticeably better with the K3 inks on the papers mentioned above. I can't speak about matte papers at this point, but I intend to keep the 4000 and use it just for matte paper printing 8 x 10 and larger. The nice thing about the 3800 is more options for borderless printing, smaller in size, and it can handle small paper sizes easily. I would rather have vacuum suction and no pizza wheels but then you get into the bigger printers with borderless and small paper size tradeoffs. The ink is also a lot cheaper if you use 220 ml cartridges, and was one of the major tradeoffs that I tossed around in my mind before making a decision. If you want to do prints longer than 22" I would suggest buying or making a D-roller to make your life a lot easier. I bought a D-roller and consider it an essential piece of equipment with the 3800 if you are going to use thicker papers cut from a roll. Andy On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:47:13 -0800, you wrote: >Andy, >Are you using papers other than Epson and are they also working good? Are >you able to compare the output of the 3800 with other larger Epson printers. >I am planning on making 16x20s and am really excited that this new printer >can do this size for less cost but I don't want to buy it and then think I >should have bought the 4800 just trying to save a few dollars. >Thanks, >Gary W. > -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of >atodzia@... > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 8:14 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: roller marks with 3800 (was: Re: Epson 3800 >for digital negative > > > Recent Activity > a.. 34New Members > Visit Your Group > SPONSORED LINKS > a.. Fine art photography > b.. Digital photography > c.. Digital photography print > d.. Digital photography technique > e.. Fine art photography print > Yahoo! News > Odd News > > You won't believe > > it, but it's true > > Yahoo! TV > The Apprentice > > Watch a new season > > in Los Angeles > > Sitebuilder > Over 380 Templates > > Build and custo- > > mize your web site > .When I said the prints are beautiful, it means 100% perfect, no > scratches. On the papers discussed, especially F-Gloss, this can be > achieved by doing a quick custom paper setup and increasing the dry > time to a value where there are no scratch marks. At the moment I am > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: roller marks with 3800 (was: Re: Epson 3800 for digital negative
2006-12-23 by atodzia@cox.net
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