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RE: [Digital BW] Re: marketing, financials, Harman, silver etc.

2007-03-21 by Eric Neilsen Photo

If find something interesting here. Who is djon43? I don't see a name on any
of these recent post. 

 

I too have had no trouble with my samples; both with a 4800 Epson K3 w/MK
and a Cone Piezo tone Sepia set with Museum Black. But since HPR keeps
getting mentioned here as a "standard", I did in fact have many troubles
with that paper when it was first released including inconsistent coatings.
It went through several package designs but that has not stopped it from
becoming a favorite of many. I also recall that it too was somewhat
expensive on it's release. This is all very recent history and easily forgot
when you stop to wipe off the blood from life on the cutting edge. 

 

As to this homage to Dmax or is it a search for a Holy Grail? Either way
sometimes the over look is far more important than an absolute Dmax nirvana.
Please stop beating that horse senseless.  

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214-827-8301

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

 

Skype : ejprinter

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of djon43
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:02 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: marketing, financials, Harman, silver etc.

 


Tyler, Harman's PR makes fabulous claims...they're risking credibility
if they ignore critical comments from skilled users. 

It seems appropriate for this site to evaluate the materials that we
use...

It might occur to Harman the only people who care about "air dried
glossy" are remembering papers better than any inkjet in certain
ways, including virtually everything on a fiber base, including Agfa
Brovira, Kodabromide, and Oriental. People without that darkroom
experience may not give a damn about it.

As you are an enthusiast for this paper, please repeat your workflow
so we can see what IS working. It sounds like Harman should release an
information sheet. 

I wouldn't bother with Harman or any other high-priced paper unless I
knew that others were successful with my personal setup (2200/MIS and
2200/Epson). 

Harman and others will shortly introduce better papers, but it's
interesting to see them trying baryta for the small market willing to
pay 2X fine silver paper for inkjet with the shortcomings even you
have mentioned. 

Far less delicate than the
> other matte papers I use.

> Clearly there is some issue that needs resolution, but it's a brand
> new product. That it doesn't meet HPR densities 

unique characteristics 

that many in the photographic
> community would find valuable.

detect an obvious climate change that threatens
> continued usefulness.
> 
> I hope the paper turns out to be great.
> Tyler
>

 



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