Digital BW, The Print

donbga wrote:

>Eric,
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>>Keith you seem to be on a personal war
>>path here.
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>Just read Keith's e-mail signature. That will tell you the whole story.
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>Don Bryant
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Don,

I don't often call people simply ignorant.  But:

1) I'm not an attorney

2)  I have a history of getting people back money in the inkjet & 
printing biz for products that don't perform as advertised.

That history started with getting thousands of people millions of $ back 
around the world when EPSON  promised (with the 1280) series, and 
endorsed by the PPA,  "Professional prints that last as long as 
traditional silver prints."  EPSON refunded not only the cost of 
individual printers, BUT also the cost of consumables (including 
expended ones) WORLDWIDE, because of the work Bob Meyer, Laurie Solomon, 
others and I did - Bruce Fraser even eventually joined with us. And we 
received not a dime...

Try this link from 2000 for starters:
http://www.p-o-v-image.com/epson/links.htm
 
So, whether or not, you, care to recognize it or like it, those others 
and I ARE considered experts in the digital printing field.

3) Large corporations have inordinate advantages in preventing consumers 
from learning the failures of their products. Read most of the reviews 
at most photo or pc publications - everything is great - especially when 
it comes from a MAJOR established player in the field. Right now, Adobe 
is the only real digital imaging/editing game in town. They surely 
aren't going to publicize shortcomings themselves.

4)  That signature line was added so that I didn't have EPSON and other 
vendors suing ME when I told the truth about their products. I'm not 
making a cent off of this and never did. However, I'm not about to let 
lawyers hit me with a SLAPP lawsuit to shut the truth down. (feel free 
to google "SLAPP lawsuit")

Part of it was also added because I had a MAJOR institutional client 
take sample images that had been emailed and violate copyright.

Don't believe any of the preceding?  Ask this list's own Paul Roark.

5)  You've seen the posts on here by others confirming personally some 
of the problems.

6)  Finally, Adobe's new 18 month "ready or not" product cycle and the 
new "extended" pricing model (which many discussed here in late April 
and early May), means they are forcing more $ from consumers and 
breaking the former Adobe paradigm.  When you break the paradigm, you 
have a responsibility to produce a MUCH BETTER product. (Which is, by 
the way, what they promised.) 

Instead, they've produced what longtime aficionados and lovers of Adobe 
software have called "The Worst Photoshop Release Ever."  That's 
bass-ackwards and it deserves to be highlighted at least once.  Adobe is 
using their name and reputation to convince people to buy into an 
upgrade that should not have yet shipped. It's a cash-stream play, pure 
and simple.

So, please, feel free to blow your ill-informed pontification out of 
whatever bodily orifice you prefer.

Oh, and don't you, or didn't you used to, work for a large international 
manufacturer of traditional photo supplies as a sales manager?  If so, 
you wouldn't have any particular axe to grind on behalf of "unfairly 
maligned corporations" when they produce products that get poor 
reviews?  Nah...

Don, if you have a personal issue or wish to continue this, I suggest 
you email me offlist. I'm not going to debate this part of it further 
onlist.

 
Keith Krebs

"Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer 
User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
Publications), at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
and  the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User  Community at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers
"For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together 
guys"

 

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