Toby, thanks for the corrections! Very well stated. I'll make sure to do much more research before commenting on a product. Alan _____ From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of CDTobie@... Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 5:02 PM To: alan_kearney@...; DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] is ANY cotton/rag white without whiteners? In a message dated 6/30/07 2:56:34 PM, alan_kearney@ <mailto:alan_kearney%40sbcglobal.net> sbcglobal.net writes: > Try Hahnemuhle German Etching or Crane Museo > Silver Rag, both are free of OB and 100% rag and archival. > Hmmm... German Etching is not a Rag paper, its a neutralized wood pulp paper. And its specs list, under "special features": "optical brighteners". What makes it highly desirable is the very tight surface, thats really a characteristic of it being a wood pulp, not a cotton rag, paper. Silver Rag, in the other hand, is both cotton rag based, and non-whitened. However its one of a very special group of new papers made to resemble a particular type of classic photo paper. The cotton in it has been very heavily calendared, and resembles a piece of cardboard more than a sheet of watercolor paper (necessary for the type of coating that is used), while the front is coated with a rather slick, almost sticky coating to produce the deep blacks, bright colors, and glossy surface its known for. Great stuff, but again, not in the usual cotton rag paper category. So its a bit deceptive to list these two papers for someone looking for an unwhitened cotton rag; they are both great papers, but neither is really in the category in question. Entrada Natural, and a few other unwhitened rag papers, are more the norm for that, but any of them, while looking reasonably white on their own, do take on a bit of a creamy cast when placed next to a whitened paper such as Entrada Bright. Thats your eye adapting to the brightest white in its field of vision. Remove the artificially brightened white from your field of vision, and the problem goes away. C. David Tobie Product Technology Manager ColorVision Business Unit Datacolor Inc. CDTobie@colorvision <mailto:CDTobie%40colorvision.com> .com www.colorvision.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] is ANY cotton/rag white without whiteners?
2007-07-01 by Alan Kearney
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