Thanks Paul, I appreciate your help here. Looks like I need to keep diving deeper. I will try these tricks. Is the core of my issue due to not being in a color managed environment, or am I hitting a relatively common issue with using the print driver "slider" approach. Or is that a dumb question. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:48:35 To:<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Took the plunge, and now I need help Try the curves to see if they have a better black cross-over. Note that the curves were made to a more linear output than Gray Gamma 2.2. As with rips like QTR, this may cause the prints to look too light or have a more abrupt transition from shadows to black. A custom dot gain curve or other softproofing procedure, even including a curves layer, that matches the monitor view to the print may be needed with any of these "non-color managed" workflows. The use of the ICCs made with QTR's Create ICC-RGB are able to take care of these problems better than most other solutions. I have put some of the curves in these ICCs. See http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT2-curves.html> k.com/BW-Info/UT2-curves.html (My comments on downloading problems probably no longer apply to the new ISP I'm using.) Any of the UT-2 curves can be put into the ICC format. See http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Embedding_Photoshop_Curves_in_ICCs.pdf> k.com/BW-Info/Embedding_Photoshop_Curves_in_ICCs.pdf Be sure to use the right settings with the curves. See http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT2-Readme.htm> k.com/BW-Info/UT2-Readme.htm In particular, note that the driver should be set to No Color Adjustment. "Color Controls" should not be checked. Hope this helps. Paul www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/> k.com/> _____ From: DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Stomberg Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 5:48 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Took the plunge, and now I need help Hi everbody, I recently took the plunge and installed the MIS UT2 B/W continuous feed ink set up on an Epson Stylus 1280. I have Photoshop Elements 5. I've been printing some of my B/W shots using the print driver sliders to lightly adjust overall cast (no curves or anything fancy yet). I have been very impressed with the highlights and midtones, but am baffled by the shadows. They are tending to come out oddly light, but with somewhat posterized bits that are very dark in the darkest areas. The gentle graduation of dark to darker is replaced by gentle graduation of somewhat dark punctuated by black here and there. To my eye, it looks like the point at which the grey inks leave off and the Eboni takes over is not correct. They grey inks seem to be handling too much of the tonal range. I have no idea how to troubleshoot with this set up. Is this the sort of thing that curves woul help with? Although it doesn't seem like the sort of thing that would be affected by poor calibration, I have not calibrated my monitor - would that contribute? I appreciate any/all [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Took the plunge, and now I need help
2007-08-23 by chris_stomberg@yahoo.com
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