Yahoo Groups archive

Digital BW, The Print

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:56 UTC

Message

Printfix Pro v2, b&w .icc profiles and Epson ABW

2007-08-27 by Jean-Marc Humbert

Dear all,

My tools : Epson 3800, PrintFix Pro v2.1, PSCS2, QTR, calibrated Eizo 
screen.
 
I am fan of B&W and just bought the 3800! What a fantastic tool!  

My favorite papers are semi gloss (such as Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl) 
since IMO the blacks are richer and deeper than with the fine art 
papers (I use also Hahnemuhle Photo Rag). 

Now of course I would like to fine tune my settings with the 3800 and 
I very carefully studied the excellent workflows described by Eric 
Chan 
(http://people.csail.mit.edu/ericchan/dp/Epson3800/printworkflow.html)
 and Giorgo Trucco 
(http://www.outbackphoto.com/printinginsights/pi045/essay.html). 

My first conclusions : 

with no specific profile, the results with B&W pics printed on FAP 
are really better with the Epson ABW mode (set to dark, 2880dpi and 
semi gloss paper) than when using the Color mode (all my files are 
RGB/16bit); with the color mode, I loose all details on the deepest 
shadows and the transitions are poor. 

With the PrintFix Pro (v.2) software and the Colorvision 
spectrocolorimeter, the profile I have made for Fine Art Paper does 
make a real improvement for the color pictures, still not for the B&W 
ones (Epson ABW mode is still better with respect to the deepest 
shadow details). 
 
Following Chan's and Trucco's recommendations, I did the following to 
optimize b&w prints on FAP paper:

-          I printed a 100-step gray scale (as provided by Roy 
Harrington with QTR) using the Epson ABW mode (dark, 2880 dpi) : I 
noticed visually that there was a huge gap between the 100% black and 
the 99% (confirmed by the readings of density from 2.06 to 1.70)

-          I read the 100 patches (plus 1 for the 100% white) with 
the PrintFix spectro using the "measure" menu (which gives in a txt 
file the Lab readings)

-          I converted the txt file using QTR Create ICC.exe to 
obtain an .icc profile.


Now, I am blocked! How can I use such profile (I put it in the 
relevant windows folder) to print a picture under Photoshop using the 
same settings as for the 100-step gray scale? Indeed, how can I apply 
such profile to print going through the Epson ABW mode (I had to 
check "lets printer determine the color" to be able to print through 
the ABW mode; if I apply the profile in the "Print with preview", 
then I will have to check the "no color management" option in the 
Epson driver and use the color mode.)

I must have missed somethingÂ…! In both above mentionned workflows, 
their authors mentionned that you may use the .icc profile obtained 
via a spectrophotometer/colorimeter to "soft prove" and "print". 

What I did (certainly wrongly) to move forward : I applied to my file 
the profile (using the photoshop "convert to profile" option) and 
then printed through the ABW mode : the result was really not 
satisfactory with all my deep shadow details converted to 100% 
blacks. 

The question I have is according to these workflows, how can I use 
this profile and still go trough the ABW mode to print. The question 
is not about neutrality but about linearization (when I see the 100 
step gray scale, I see the need to have a better transition in the 
100% to 95% areas). 

Thank you for your contribution and your help.

Jean-Marc Humbert
Paris, France

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.