I think that, when using ABW, the profile is used for soft-proofing only. With it you can view the way the image should print (and thus make adjustments so that it prints the way you want) prior to printing it. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jean-Marc Humbert" <humbertjm@...> wrote: > > Dear all, > > My tools : Epson 3800, PrintFix Pro v2.1, PSCS2, QTR, calibrated Eizo > screen. > > I am fan of B&W and just bought the 3800! What a fantastic tool! > > My favorite papers are semi gloss (such as Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl) > since IMO the blacks are richer and deeper than with the fine art > papers (I use also Hahnemuhle Photo Rag). > > Now of course I would like to fine tune my settings with the 3800 and > I very carefully studied the excellent workflows described by Eric > Chan > (http://people.csail.mit.edu/ericchan/dp/Epson3800/printworkflow.html) > and Giorgo Trucco > (http://www.outbackphoto.com/printinginsights/pi045/essay.html). > > My first conclusions : > > with no specific profile, the results with B&W pics printed on FAP > are really better with the Epson ABW mode (set to dark, 2880dpi and > semi gloss paper) than when using the Color mode (all my files are > RGB/16bit); with the color mode, I loose all details on the deepest > shadows and the transitions are poor. > > With the PrintFix Pro (v.2) software and the Colorvision > spectrocolorimeter, the profile I have made for Fine Art Paper does > make a real improvement for the color pictures, still not for the B&W > ones (Epson ABW mode is still better with respect to the deepest > shadow details). > > Following Chan's and Trucco's recommendations, I did the following to > optimize b&w prints on FAP paper: > > - I printed a 100-step gray scale (as provided by Roy > Harrington with QTR) using the Epson ABW mode (dark, 2880 dpi) : I > noticed visually that there was a huge gap between the 100% black and > the 99% (confirmed by the readings of density from 2.06 to 1.70) > > - I read the 100 patches (plus 1 for the 100% white) with > the PrintFix spectro using the "measure" menu (which gives in a txt > file the Lab readings) > > - I converted the txt file using QTR Create ICC.exe to > obtain an .icc profile. > > > Now, I am blocked! How can I use such profile (I put it in the > relevant windows folder) to print a picture under Photoshop using the > same settings as for the 100-step gray scale? Indeed, how can I apply > such profile to print going through the Epson ABW mode (I had to > check "lets printer determine the color" to be able to print through > the ABW mode; if I apply the profile in the "Print with preview", > then I will have to check the "no color management" option in the > Epson driver and use the color mode.) > > I must have missed somethingÂ…! In both above mentionned workflows, > their authors mentionned that you may use the .icc profile obtained > via a spectrophotometer/colorimeter to "soft prove" and "print". > > What I did (certainly wrongly) to move forward : I applied to my file > the profile (using the photoshop "convert to profile" option) and > then printed through the ABW mode : the result was really not > satisfactory with all my deep shadow details converted to 100% > blacks. > > The question I have is according to these workflows, how can I use > this profile and still go trough the ABW mode to print. The question > is not about neutrality but about linearization (when I see the 100 > step gray scale, I see the need to have a better transition in the > 100% to 95% areas). > > Thank you for your contribution and your help. > > Jean-Marc Humbert > Paris, France >
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Re: Printfix Pro v2, b&w .icc profiles and Epson ABW
2007-08-27 by Manuel Toledo
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