Digital BW, The Print

No actually, that surprised me too, the 10K pressurized carts have the
most pressure of them all, yet the "punctured" retrofitted carts by
far out perform any cloned third party carts that still have that
bladder seal intact. The only function that I can see for it is to
keep someone from refilling the thing. Ernst figured that out a couple
of years ago.

My concern was some kind of leakage through the front, but once you
replace the cap, with its rubber o ring seal back in place, all is
perfect and it is sealed. I've never had one error message with them.
You just reset the chip counter and it thinks it is oem.

Of course funnel fill systems are just as good or better but for my
10K they are very expensive, not for smaller machines. The advantage
of them would be seeing the ink levels without even having to resort
to any chip reading or resetting at all and for smaller carts it would
be much preferable to have a lot more ink in there and avoid the
hassle of filling carts. If  you wanted you could turn off the entire
chip reading mechanism in the firmware.

john


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> Does puncturing the backflow valve affect performance?  
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> My general impression was that the pressurized carts were an
improvement in
> some way over the others.  So, if we could keep all the advantages
of the
> carts and simply refill them, that might be better than these funnel
fill
> carts.
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> I'm assuming MIS must have some 3800 chips if they are looking for beta
> testers.  They may be like the 260 chips - auto reset.  There are worse
> things.  I just re-fill when they reset.
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> Paul
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> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m] On Behalf Of Ernst
> Dinkla
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:24 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Effect for Europe of US ruling on Epson
> cartridges?
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> Paul Roark wrote:
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> > If we could refill 3800 and up carts, we would be probably be fine. 
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> > Ernst, do you have a system that works and you could share?
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> I have no 3800 but isn't the chip resetting not the first 
> hurdle to take ? Didn't follow the messages on that subject 
> but I believe the resetters that could reset the 9600 + 
> 10000 and the later versions that reset the 9800 model do 
> not reset the 3800 chips. Hardware wise it is probably a 
> back flow valve that has to be punctured by a key hole 
> operation like needed for the 10000 and 9800 carts. John 
> Dean must have the instructions for that.
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> Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
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