Digital BW, The Print

That's true if your talking black and white tray fiber printing. But
color was just the opposite. Kodak owned the world and the choices we
had then were almost non-existant, not to mention impermanent in a way
that makes Epson seem like the savior of color photography.

john


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Charles Becker
<gypyjunior@...> wrote:
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> Well said Tyler!
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> Charles.
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> From: Tyler Boley <tyler@...>
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 9:39:40 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson's court victory
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>             All of these companies are newbies when it comes to fine
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> printing, viewed in the larger view of photographic materials. They
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> see a market and are attempting to provide a solution.
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> But the market was never like this in the past. Few if any of us,
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> other than perhaps commercial labs doing quantity, ever accepted a
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> solution entirely from one company.
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> I used Agfa Portriga, in Ilford Bromophen with Kodak Benzatriazol
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> added, Kodak stop bath, unhardened fix I mixed, Kodak Selenium toner,
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> and on and on. Then some prints were on Pal Print, in Agfa Neutol...
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> well you get the idea. The artists were the ones messing about,
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> discovering ways to create extraordinary objects from these products,
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> never the board rooms. Their names make up our history.
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> Since when did we so readily accept the notion that product teams from
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> three manufacturers will determine the subtle nuances of how our
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> individual art appears?
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> Sorry, but when it comes to my life's work- I'm the decider.
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> For better or worse.
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> Polaroid and Kodak gave materials to the likes of Adams, Weston,
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> Caponigro, for feedback, and not even for marketing! Who here has been
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> approached for feedback from any of these companies? I've been doing
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> this quite a while, and my name out there a bit, my only contact with
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> Epson was an expression of disappointment I wasn't using their ink,
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> they didn't even look at the damn print.
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> My rant for the evening.
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> Tyler, the decider
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com, "David M. Dorn"
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> printers suggest very economical ink usag...or maybe the HP which gets
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