Digital BW, The Print

Carl,

Is the ink you are referring to as MIS RCNTL-4-PKN is:

"PKN - Ultratone Photo Black Neutral -
Paul has discovered that, by adding some archival blue pigments to the
Ultratone Photo Black ink, he can achieve a significantly higher Dmax
on gloss and semi-gloss papers. The addition of the blue has only
minor effects on the fade resistance of the ink. As with all Ultratone
inks, no dyes are added." (from MIS webiste) ?

Could the part number have changed to :   	UTPKN-4  	Bulk Ink  	4 oz
Bottle of PKN  	$18.00

I am having a hard time finding the exact ink you are referring to on
MIS's website. Could you direct me to the right one? I understand
there seems to be a difference between PK and PKN.

Many thanks,

Denis Bouchard
www.denisbouchard.ca

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "bjshazam"
<bjshazam@...> wrote:
>
> Carl:
> 
> Many thanks.  That makes perfect sense.
> 
> Follow-up question:  With MIS ceasing sale of spongless blank 
> cartridges, any idea where one might find them?
> 
> Best,
> Ben
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
> <list@> wrote:
> >
> > Ben,
> > 
> > I use MIS empty carts.  The ink assignments are given in the 
> header  
> > of each curve txt file, but you can rearrange any way you wish.  I 
> am  
> > currently using Eboni in the PK, MK, Y slots, PKN in the C, R, B  
> > slots and glop in the glop position.  M has the RCNTL dark gray 
> in  
> > case I want to do a partitioned 2K profile, but since I haven't 
> used  
> > it I'll probably just put cleaning fluid there.  When you make 
> these  
> > ink position changes you must of course edit the profiles 
> accordingly  
> > and re-load.
> > 
> > Carl
> > 
> > On Dec 7, 2007, at 3:42 PM, bjshazam wrote:
> > 
> > > Carl:
> > >
> > > I am curious about your use of the neutral MIS inks for glossy 
> B&W
> > > prints, based on Paul Roark's 3MK process.  Do you use continuous
> > > flow, or blank cartridges filled with the RC-NTL-4-PKN ink?
> > >
> > > Also, since Paul's process calls for an eboni cartridge in the 
> glop
> > > slot, how do you account for that, if you want to use both the 
> 3MK
> > > and 3PK sets on the same r1800?  Is it simply a matter of 
> changing
> > > the cartridge assignments in QTRIP, or something more difficult 
> (or
> > > even possible at all)?
> > >
> > > Or, have all of these questions been answered in another post 
> that I
> > > have missed.
> > >
> > > Thanks much,
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Carl
> > > Schofield" <list@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Additional curve files for fiber papers and icc profiles have 
> been
> > > added to the file archive
> > >> at the link below.  Curve, create-icc, and .quad files for
> > > printing with MIS PK
> > >> Neutral ink on Microceramic Luster, Red River Ultrasatin Pro 
> 2.0,
> > > Innova
> > >> Semimatte Fiber, and Harmon Gloss FB Al in the Epson R1800
> > > printer. Read curve
> > >> file headers for ink positions and print at 2880, 
> unidirectional.
> > >> http://homepage.mac.com/scho/.Public/R1800_3PKN.zip
> > >>
> > >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl
> > > Schofield <list@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Not any more John.  Best small format B&W prints I've ever made
> > > on RC
> > >>> (and the new fiber papers) have been with the Epson R1800 using
> > > Paul
> > >>> Roark's 3-MK workflow, but subsituting the new MIS neutral PK
> > > (part#
> > >>> RCNTL-4-PKN).  These "3-PKN" prints have that luminous BO
> > > quality,
> > >>> but without the "grain".   Very smooth highlights and midtones.
> > > QTR
> > >>> R1800 3-PKN profiles for use with luster papers (Red River
> > > UltraPro
> > >>> Satin 2.0 and IJA Microceramic Luster) available here:
> > >>> http://homepage.mac.com/scho/.Public/R1800_3PKN.zip
> > >>>
> > >>> Carl Schofield
> > >>>
> > >>> On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:13 AM, john kelly wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Black Only is limited by print size. The smaller, the
> > >>>> worser. I suspect the main reasons for Black Only are
> > >>>> minimal learning curve and bogus film grain (good for
> > >>>> digicams). ...snip
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
>