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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Another post on Cone vs UT7 for 2100/2200

2008-01-01 by Eric Neilsen

FP, I have been a Cone Peizotone user since they came out in my 7000 with IP
to drive it. Before that I was working at a studio that started with their
ultra clogging ink set. I didn't feel like spending a ton of time working
out all the issues that surround closed systems; ink jet printers with out
total control over out put. I too was spoiled by being able to change
papers, developers, toners, etc in the silver based printing world that
early digital B&W was lots of experimentation. It still is and many would
rather be printing than comparing, printing comparing, in an endless loop. 

 

While I have seen a few MIS prints, I chose to stay with Cone not because I
knew them to be best or trouble free (in fact I had seen just the opposite)
but the set I was using did work well enough to be "my set up".  With all
the improvements in OEM drivers and inks, the control in split toning from
programs like PS CS3, some serious thinking needs to be put into tinkering
with dedicated ink sets. As papers and inks come to market and get used by
experienced users samples and opinions will be shared. I doubt however that
consensus will come easily or at all as too what each workflow will provide.


 

This list contains serious professional printers as well as newbies to
photography and printing. So the desires and understanding will run the
gamut of pricing, personal esthetics, etc.; everything that affects what we
like best.  Few of us can spend the time to play with all the options out
there.   And even those that can spend some time playing with new inks and
paper are subject to personal choice which may or may not come out in our
postings. 

 

I am amazed at how many options present themselves to us each day to make
these images; Computer OS, RIPs, paper, ink, image editing software, etc. It
is easy to get lost in figuring it all out. And in the mean time precious
creative time is lost and some newly discovered. 

 

Load you craft with enough to keep you afloat, but not so much to meet every
possible situation.    

 

Eric

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Another post on Cone vs UT7 for 2100/2200

<SNIP>
There is no silver bullet, or easy answer to your question. You are the 
arbiter and it's your call on that one. If you don't want to do your own
testing 
and experimenting, send a file to someone using a different inkset and ask 
them to print it. And after you find the inkset, there's the choice of 
paper.......

Richard Massie


In a message dated 1/1/2008 12:15:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
tyler@tylerboley. <mailto:tyler%40tylerboley.com> com writes:

I just don't think there's a blanket answer to that. It depends on so many 
individual 
subjective things, particularly the nature of your imagery, and your 
personal preferences 
about B&W prints.
The other reason there may be few replies, I don't suppose there are many 
that have 
extensive experience with both systems and feel qualified to answer.
Tyler

 


<snip>
> 
> I guess the bottom line question remains: are the pluses of Cone
> worth the considerable extra cost? 
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