The topic of B&W conversion seems like a hot topic as it is also going on at the NAPP site now. I'll mention RealGrain from Imagenomic. It can be applied to 16 bit files, allows for layer use, can add grain, if you want to and gives you control over selective color channels. The down side is the pixel limitation that many plug ins can run into with PS. So if you are shooting new digital; capture it may be very viable, but if you are looking at working with scans, may be not as much so in 16 bit. LR, PS have nice conversions too and for many of us, already in the tool box. Here are a couple of links that you may find useful. (http://www.plugsandpixels.com/ezine.html) (http://www.plugsandpixels.com/imageeffects.html). You may need to copy and paste the addresses here. Plugs and Pixel sis a site that list many plug ins for PS. It is a site that does commerce so it is not going to list everyone, but what sites and internet groups don't have an agenda? I don't have a connection to it. Eric Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 http://e.neilsen.home.att.net http://ericneilsenphotography.com Skype ejprinter _____ From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pglombick Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 7:50 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: B&W Conversion Techniques I stand by Clayton's method. I tried using a few plug-ins, and while sometimes the results are what you are looking for and sometimes not, I found that most times I could emulate the look of the plug-in in PS anyway, just in more steps. Plus I hate giving away the flexibility that layers allows and I like to keep things in 16-bit during the editing stage. While I generally use use the method Clayton advocates (make sure the Hue/Sat layer is under the channel mizer on your layers view), I find that sometimes I prefer a curves adjustment here either in place of, or in conjuction with, the Hue/Sat layer. This allows me to fine-tune things even more in the highlights and shadows for each channel. Not all images need this, but some do. It goes with out saying, that all of these techniques can be applied with masks, as needed. There was a comment earlier about throwing out the "garbage" blue channel. While I may be in the minority here, I find the blue channel often contains the element I am looking for to make certain images pop or stand out. An example is a field of different lavender types that I shot at a lavender farm this summer. Or one time I shot a portait of a friend practicing yoga. As he had grey eyes and a fair complection, the blue channel gave a dramamtic look to the portrait, while the green and red channel version looked rather mundane. True, it usually contains more noise, especially in the shadows, but careful noise treatment of the blue channel can usually bring this to within acceptable levels. And, as others here have pointed out, no one way approach best with all images. If you take some time to experiment, your time invested will definitely pay off. Paul G. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: B&W Conversion Techniques
2008-01-25 by Eric Neilsen
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