Hi Roger, > ...your 21 step grayscale wedge (which is VERY useful!) I use 21-step files for most tests. QTR can handle 51 steps also, and I wish I had a better one. I made a vertical one that sometimes helps, but I found the horizontal, 3-row one in QTR appeared to be affected by vertically running artifacts. Even on matte papers the rollers and perhaps other things do leave their marks, even if invisible in most situations. The 51 steps are so close, however, that they can be affected by the artifacts -- or so my tests suggest. So, I generally use 21-steps and keep in mind that the curves must have smooth transitions to avoid a wiggle that is smaller than the relatively wide 21-step spacing would "see." > You seem to be using it to both linearize and get a > neutral grayscale simultaneously. Yes, I look at and adjust for L, A & B and the same time. > Do you have any references on how to do this? I > don't have a background in manual curve creation. I'm not sure I've written up much detail. First, I use Excel to open and graph the PFP text files. So, open in Excel, highlight the L column, then go to the top and Insert a Chart. Use the Line type. For L, just take a straight edge and draw a line from the first to the last dot. This is what a linear rip will print when linearized. RGB (like Gray Gamma 2.2) will compress the shadows, so in fact, draw a line from the paper white to a 95% that would be barely above where the 100% is. This line is your guide. Where a dot of above the line, you'll want to adjust R, G, & B curves accordingly. If the points in the Lab A & B measures are neutral, adjust all three equally. Nore on the graph how much, so you learn at the next iteration how much a move by X points changes the output. You need to be familiar with Lab A & B. If the print is too yellow, you'll adjust the blue curve accordingly. If the point has a perfect Lab L but has a high Lab A, you'll reduce M and increase C by the same amount. You'll get the hang of this after a few iterations. So, it's a process of printing the 21-step file with the last curve (which is saved with the iteration number in the name), measuring the print (after a hair drier is used on it), graphing the results, and making appropriate adjustments in the curve. > Say if step 17 (80%) is L26.47 I don't think in L numbers. I just graph and draw a line for reference, keeping in mind the final should have the compressed toe. > a= 1.98 b= 6.61 A=1 is OK. See where the paper white is and use that for a reference. "Neutral" is defined by the paper for Lab A the way I do things. These spectros are not very accurate at these very low readings, so the paper white serves as a calibration point, and I think you'll see most papers aim for a slightly positive Lab A. > I'd want to counter the postive b by increasing the blue channel Yes, but confusion can arrise is what is meant by "increasing." The curves have 2 modes. The 0 - 100% ink mode is easier to deal with, but less accurate. You'll find you're limitted even by the 256 steps of the 0 - 255 luminance mode. Just keep in mind that moving the blue curve toward the darker side increases the yellow ink. So, how people think in complementary colors probably differs, but I mentally label the curves by theie complement. That way "more" ink in the 0 - 100% ink mode means more yellow is injected when the blue curve (which I think of as yellow) is moved to a more positive number. > somewhat and reduce the a by increasing the green channel, No, green is not opposite of blue. I make the Lab L, A and B moves separately just to keep it simple. To keep L equal I'd increase Blue 2 units and reduce G and R one unit each. > ... Is there an equation to assist with this? There is trial and error, but you'll find you learn how much to move each point. By keeping track of your moves on the graph you've printed you can see how much to move the next time. The iterative process works well, and I think you'll find you learn how much to move things quickly. > ---------------------------- > > Also, on an unrelated note, I'm going back and reprofiling my R220 > using UTR2 with glossy media. By using RPM and checking Microweave > I'm getting much higher dMaxes- increasing from 2.13 to 2.32 on > Kirkland Glossy, getting 2.25 on Silver Rag, 2.15 to 2.36 on Harmon > FB Al, etc. It also has no microbanding under a loupe which is > nice. Downside is that prints take forever. Yes, I do the same thing. I'm using an old 2200 with Carbon-6 (with cheap SuperJet CIS -- working perfectly) and have it on 2880 slow for ultimate smoothness. If I were a service bureau I'd probably crank it up to 1440 HS and hope the customers didn't use a loupe on the print. But, given my low volume, I feel better with the perfect prints, and the speed is very secondary. Good luck with the profiling. Once you get the hang of it, you'll seldom have to do more than a half dozen iterations. Fortunately, most papers of the same basic type use the same basic curves. I have only one layer for the 260 and use is with all my matte papers. The opacity slider on the layer is usually all I need to adjust to account for paper differences. I also find I usually want the saturation increased 25% with the 260. The MIS pigs simply are not as high gamut as the Claria inks. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
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Re: Question about Paul Roark adjustment layer for color inks
2008-04-01 by pr_roark
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