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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Can one make a decent print on Photo Rag with the 3800?

2008-09-06 by Michael King

Ok so that recommendation is crap VFA is far too heavy ink load for HPR
which is why you have the shadows problem.
The 4800 recommendation is the following - try using that - I find it works
fine on 4800 and I am sure it will be good for 3800.
Watercolor Paper - Radiant White, 1440 dpi, Matte Black, Perceptual

Without a profile set to ABW to "dark". This is approximately correct for a
gamma 2.2 image.

If you take the trouble to build a profile use normal setting. Its trivial
to build a profile as you have a spectro and you can still use ABW with it.

Mike






2008/9/6 Igor Wesdorp <iwesdorp@...>

>   Mike,
>
> > Did you check which paper setting is recommended for Photo Rag by
> Hahnemühle? I would use the same paper setting for ABW set to normal.
>
> Hahnemühle* recommends "Velvet File Art" as paper setting for all its
> fine art
> papers. So this is what I used, and wether I print with Tone/Dark,
> Normal or Light, the blacks remain crappy, with no or hardly visible
> separation between the 2 darkest steps in the wedge.
>
> *
> http://www.hahnemuehle.com/media/downloads/62/Print_Instruction_Epson.pdf
>
> > Also for a great result you need to use QTR Create ICC .
>
> Yes, they say it's good. However, I was hoping to get good results
> without having to engage in using a RIP and/or making ICC (which I've
> never done before and will cost me a lot of time to figure out). I
> also thought that since K3 is a widely used inkset and Photo Rag a
> popular paper, the right settings to use this combination had long
> been found by others. But maybe I can't be done, making good B&W
> prints with the 3800 on Photo Rag without using a RIP.
>
> Igor
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Michael King"
> <drmrking@...> wrote:
> >
> > Your problem is your paper setting.
> > Did you check which paper setting is recommended for Photo Rag by
> > Hahnemühle?
> > I would use the same paper setting for ABW set to normal.
> >
> > Also for a great result you need to use QTR Create ICC - Google it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/9/5 Igor Wesdorp <iwesdorp@...>
> >
> > > Hello everyone.
> > >
> > > I just bought me a 3800 and printed some step wedges on Photo Rag with
> > > ABW. Then I measured them with a densitometer. But the results were
> > > not good. See the graph at http://www.xs4all.nl/~hc6/3800/3800.htm
> > >
> > > Although the largest part of the curve is smooth, the darkest parts
> > > are bad, with no differentation between the 2 darkest steps.
> > >
> > > My settings were:
> > > PS CS:
> > > - Print space/Profile/ Printer color management.
> > > - Working space: gray Gamma 2.2.
> > >
> > > Epson:
> > > - Media type: Velvet Fine Art Paper
> > >
> > > Epson ABW:
> > > - Tone: Dark.
> > > - No further adjustments.
> > >
> > > I also did a print on Velvet Fine Art Paper, which looked good, but I
> > > want to use Photo Rag.
> > >
> > > Could anyone, please, give me the right settings for printing B&W on
> > > Photo Rag with the 3800? (if it is possible to make a good print on
> > > this paper with the 3800)
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Igor
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
>
> 
>


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