pr_roark wrote: > I put some links to HP Material Data Safety Sheets and other > information, as well as some of my notes on these inks at > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/HP-Vivera-Notes.pdf > > Needless to say, HP appears to have done a terrific job here. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > Paul, the link in the article: http://www.paulroark.com/BWInfo/Pigment-Stabilization.pdf seems to be disconnected. Wonder if the article you refer to is: http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800-Lightfastness.pdf Steric, isn't that related to fatty acids: butyrates (butteracid in my Dutch conscience) ? This one a basic ingedient of ABS "the stronger styrene plastic". Styrenes that all yellow in time. Didn't expect a styrene component in the pigment encapsulation, acrylic, PVA, are all more clear and stay more clear. My first silkscreen waterbased ink (dispersion) made by Unico was based on an acrylic/styrene mix but I thought at that time that the styrene was added to reduce the ingredient costs. It probably is more related to the behaviour as a pigment particle in the dispersion than to their color quality. Checking it on a wider brain, I see the butyrate is used in mixes of acrylic and styrene for the encapsulation, BASF people, http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/la015734j Nothing on Electrosteric in Wikipedia but this one gives the more general overview: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5639296/description.html On more water in the Vivera ink, there will be more water vaporised in the thermohead than it is in a pi\ufffdzohead, at least the technology suggests that. What lands on the paper may be of equal rheology compared to the Epson inks. Some ingredients will have to do with the different jet technology and the head's materials they come in contact with. Some thoughts on using Vivera inks that lingered in my head longer than today: The use of Vivera inks (or V7 mixes made of them :-) in pi\ufffdzohead designs must be possible while the other way around Epson inks in HP heads is less likely to work consistently. The higher water content may be an obstacle given their use in a pi\ufffdzohead. You gave the MSDS sheets for all monochromes but the gloss enhancer which could be a part of a V7 mix. Big carts of the monochrome inks (but the GE cart) are available for the Z6100, 750 ML the price drops to approximately 20-25 Eurocents a ML without VAT. The twin pack 130 ML carts (260 ML) of GE will be something like 30 Eurocents a ML. There's a reason for using pi\ufffdzoheads as the alternative quad drivers (QTR for example) for HP models do not exist. A pity as the head technology in the B9180 is really good and the heads are user replaceable. Anyway that B9180 already makes a very nice matte B&W print with the Vivera pigment inks it uses. The same heads I have in my Z3100 and not one replaced in 20 months and no clog problem either. Maybe QTR will one day cover the HP models as well. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |
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Re: [Digital BW] HP Vivera pigments
2008-12-04 by Ernst Dinkla
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