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Re: [Digital BW] Re: 9900 ABW vs Piezotone inks

2009-04-06 by Mark Savoia

If somebody wants to toss me a few sheets to run. I am now into  
another project so it might be awhile till I get to it.

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

On Apr 6, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:

> well could ya get some?
> Tyler
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia  
> <mark@...> wrote:
>>
>> I do not have that paper.
>>
>> Mark
>> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Clayton Jones wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Mark,
>>>
>>>> I have had my Epson 9900 for a few weeks now and was finally  
>>>> able to
>>>> do some tests to compare its ABW mode vs Piezotone selenium inks.
>>>> Bottom line, the Piezotones have much more depth to them. They look
>>>> 3D and the 9900 black and white prints do not. Color on the 9900 I
>>>> was able to tweak to match the Pieozone fairly close. All tests  
>>>> were
>>>> done on Hahnemuhle Photo Rag.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the report.  Is there any chance you can do the same
>>> comparison on VFA?  The reason I ask is that HPR was one of my top
>>> papers when I used Eboni-based ink sets, while VFA was good but
>>> didn't stand out.  I kept some on hand only for testing.
>>>
>>> When my 2200 died the replacement warranty I had purchased with it
>>> delivered to me a new 2400.  After acclimating to the new system I
>>> found that the combination of K3 inks and VFA produced far better
>>> results than K3/HPR, and even better than Eboni/HPR in some ways.
>>> The depth effect as you mention (among other things), was very rich
>>> compared to previous results.
>>>
>>> The result is that my entire paper lineup changed.  I still have
>>> some HPR and I'm slowly trying to use it up, but it only works well
>>> with a certain few images (and even then it's just acceptable).  My
>>> general impression is that K3 and HPR are simply not a good match,
>>> for whatever reason.  Getting good results with it always seems
>>> like a struggle, where VFA just sings easily in tune.  BTW, another
>>> favorite K3 paper for me is Innova's Soft Texture Art (STA).  It's
>>> the best non-OBA paper for K3 I've found.  Hawk Mtn's Merlin
>>> Natural is also a fine K3 paper, as is Museo Max - please don't get
>>> the impression that K3 is only good on one paper.
>>>
>>> Bottom line is don't judge the ink by testing on just one paper.
>>> It can make a big difference.  PZ may still beat out K3 on VFA, but
>>> you won't know for sure until you test it.  K3 is also superb on
>>> the Fiber Gloss type papers.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Clayton



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