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[Digital BW] Re: 9900 ABW vs Piezotone inks

2009-04-06 by Tyler Boley

Mark, just joking, badly.
Thanks for the report.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote:
>
> If somebody wants to toss me a few sheets to run. I am now into  
> another project so it might be awhile till I get to it.
> 
> Mark
> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
> 
> On Apr 6, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:
> 
> > well could ya get some?
> > Tyler
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia  
> > <mark@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I do not have that paper.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
> >>
> >> On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Clayton Jones wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Mark,
> >>>
> >>>> I have had my Epson 9900 for a few weeks now and was finally  
> >>>> able to
> >>>> do some tests to compare its ABW mode vs Piezotone selenium inks.
> >>>> Bottom line, the Piezotones have much more depth to them. They look
> >>>> 3D and the 9900 black and white prints do not. Color on the 9900 I
> >>>> was able to tweak to match the Pieozone fairly close. All tests  
> >>>> were
> >>>> done on Hahnemuhle Photo Rag.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the report.  Is there any chance you can do the same
> >>> comparison on VFA?  The reason I ask is that HPR was one of my top
> >>> papers when I used Eboni-based ink sets, while VFA was good but
> >>> didn't stand out.  I kept some on hand only for testing.
> >>>
> >>> When my 2200 died the replacement warranty I had purchased with it
> >>> delivered to me a new 2400.  After acclimating to the new system I
> >>> found that the combination of K3 inks and VFA produced far better
> >>> results than K3/HPR, and even better than Eboni/HPR in some ways.
> >>> The depth effect as you mention (among other things), was very rich
> >>> compared to previous results.
> >>>
> >>> The result is that my entire paper lineup changed.  I still have
> >>> some HPR and I'm slowly trying to use it up, but it only works well
> >>> with a certain few images (and even then it's just acceptable).  My
> >>> general impression is that K3 and HPR are simply not a good match,
> >>> for whatever reason.  Getting good results with it always seems
> >>> like a struggle, where VFA just sings easily in tune.  BTW, another
> >>> favorite K3 paper for me is Innova's Soft Texture Art (STA).  It's
> >>> the best non-OBA paper for K3 I've found.  Hawk Mtn's Merlin
> >>> Natural is also a fine K3 paper, as is Museo Max - please don't get
> >>> the impression that K3 is only good on one paper.
> >>>
> >>> Bottom line is don't judge the ink by testing on just one paper.
> >>> It can make a big difference.  PZ may still beat out K3 on VFA, but
> >>> you won't know for sure until you test it.  K3 is also superb on
> >>> the Fiber Gloss type papers.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Clayton
> 
> 
> 
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