Sorry, did not get that, it must be Monday. Mark http://www.stillrivereditions.com On Apr 6, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Tyler Boley wrote: > Mark, just joking, badly. > Thanks for the report. > Tyler > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia > <mark@...> wrote: >> >> If somebody wants to toss me a few sheets to run. I am now into >> another project so it might be awhile till I get to it. >> >> Mark >> http://www.stillrivereditions.com >> >> On Apr 6, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Tyler Boley wrote: >> >>> well could ya get some? >>> Tyler >>> >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia >>> <mark@> wrote: >>>> >>>> I do not have that paper. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> http://www.stillrivereditions.com >>>> >>>> On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Clayton Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Mark, >>>>> >>>>>> I have had my Epson 9900 for a few weeks now and was finally >>>>>> able to >>>>>> do some tests to compare its ABW mode vs Piezotone selenium inks. >>>>>> Bottom line, the Piezotones have much more depth to them. They >>>>>> look >>>>>> 3D and the 9900 black and white prints do not. Color on the >>>>>> 9900 I >>>>>> was able to tweak to match the Pieozone fairly close. All tests >>>>>> were >>>>>> done on Hahnemuhle Photo Rag. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the report. Is there any chance you can do the same >>>>> comparison on VFA? The reason I ask is that HPR was one of my top >>>>> papers when I used Eboni-based ink sets, while VFA was good but >>>>> didn't stand out. I kept some on hand only for testing. >>>>> >>>>> When my 2200 died the replacement warranty I had purchased with it >>>>> delivered to me a new 2400. After acclimating to the new system I >>>>> found that the combination of K3 inks and VFA produced far better >>>>> results than K3/HPR, and even better than Eboni/HPR in some ways. >>>>> The depth effect as you mention (among other things), was very >>>>> rich >>>>> compared to previous results. >>>>> >>>>> The result is that my entire paper lineup changed. I still have >>>>> some HPR and I'm slowly trying to use it up, but it only works >>>>> well >>>>> with a certain few images (and even then it's just >>>>> acceptable). My >>>>> general impression is that K3 and HPR are simply not a good match, >>>>> for whatever reason. Getting good results with it always seems >>>>> like a struggle, where VFA just sings easily in tune. BTW, >>>>> another >>>>> favorite K3 paper for me is Innova's Soft Texture Art (STA). It's >>>>> the best non-OBA paper for K3 I've found. Hawk Mtn's Merlin >>>>> Natural is also a fine K3 paper, as is Museo Max - please don't >>>>> get >>>>> the impression that K3 is only good on one paper. >>>>> >>>>> Bottom line is don't judge the ink by testing on just one paper. >>>>> It can make a big difference. PZ may still beat out K3 on VFA, >>>>> but >>>>> you won't know for sure until you test it. K3 is also superb on >>>>> the Fiber Gloss type papers. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Clayton >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. 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Re: [Digital BW] Re: 9900 ABW vs Piezotone inks
2009-04-06 by Mark Savoia
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