Digital BW, The Print

Jon,
I made the decision when Tyler informed me he went through the whole  
process for a bunch of paper and ink combos to provide to his clients  
and either they did not know how to use them or never asked. The  
client who was quizzing me turned out not to know much about anything,  
had just heard the buzzword "soft proof" at some seminar. The scans he  
provided me to make 30x40 prints were unusable, ....such crap people  
are getting  from certain "scan services". I requested the neg so we  
can scan it ourselves but he was too nervous to let it travel via  
FEDEX or other means, he is out of state. So for now, I will do what I  
always do, make the client a small proof first and 99%  of the time  
they love it and OK it.

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

On May 8, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Jon Cone wrote:

> Mark,
>
> Buy they EyeOne and you can make a soft proof profile in minutes.  
> It's the best instrument for my money and you can segue it into  
> StudioPrint linearizations if you wish, make RGB and CMYK profiles  
> as well as calibrate monitors, etc...  QTR is setup for it to make  
> the ICC softproofs and you do not have to fool around with another  
> brand which is not as suitable to making the QTR Create-ICCs.
>
> Super easy...
>
> Jon Cone
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Terry Ritz  
> <t.ritz@...> wrote:
>>
>> Should you decide to do this after all Mark. . . .   You just need  
>> to find a
>> way to get the LAB values out of your spectro for a 21 step wedge.  
>> These
>> need to populate a relatively simple text file, which is then used  
>> to create
>> the soft proof.
>>
>> For the other poster who felt that ink and paper toning might not
>> represented, they are. With the QTR Create-ICC tools you can make  
>> profiles
>> that contain only LAB "L" data, or profiles with LAB "L", "A", and  
>> "B" data.
>>
>> I have found the soft proofs to be very useful, at leaset for my own
>> purposes. I can compare various toned and split toned approaches on  
>> screen
>> before I make my print. More recently, Jon Cone's folks sent me  
>> soft proofs
>> for his Special Edition inks, one for a six ink version and one for  
>> a seven
>> ink version. I could see how the two differed, and compare them  
>> with the
>> inkset I had at the time. Of course I followed up by having some  
>> real prints
>> made before a purchase, but I learned enough with the soft proofs  
>> to keep
>> going.
>>
>> Terry.
>>
>>
>> On 06/05/09 4:48 PM, "Mark Savoia" <mark@...> wrote:
>>
>>> You are always the guy of reason. I don't know why I want to do this
>>> either. This always happens when a new client wants to "outfox" me
>>> thinking he has a better way to do it. And you are right, 99% of
>>> clients don't know how to use it anyway, while 99% never need me to
>>> make any adjustments to their files, it IS almost perfect. Damn I  
>>> hate
>>> when your right!
>>>
>>> Although I appreciate the grounding, you can NOT have my DTP-41 :)
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't help specificallt for the dtp-41, but I'll trade ya my old
>>>> i1 for it and then you have this solved...
>>>>
>>>> You know, I went to great effort to make preview profiles for every
>>>> PTone StudioPrint ink setup I have here, warm, Selenium, splits,
>>>> blends, the whole dealy-bob, thinking I'm supplying a helpful tool
>>>> for my clients to use for file prep.
>>>> No one, not one, that I can recall since I started Custom Digital,
>>>> has requested one, and when I've suggested it, never used one.
>>>> Your StudioPrint output is probably meticulously and beautifully
>>>> linearized, and no doubt matches your working space on the monitor
>>>> just fine given the ability to target a given dot gain "out".
>>>> Soft proof icc based is just not necessary.
>>>> Just in case, if you do proceed, make sure they check "preserve
>>>> color numbers" since you won't be printing with the profile.
>>>> Tyler
>>>>
>>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
>>>> <mark@> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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