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Re: [Digital BW] Soft-proof "profile" for Piezotones?

2009-05-08 by Cdtobie

The "other brand" makes great CreateICC profiles, actually. It's what  
Paul Roark uses for all his measuring.

C. D. Tobie
Global Product Technology Mngr.
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor.com
CDTobie@...

On May 8, 2009, at 3:06 PM, "Jon Cone" <jon@...> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> Buy they EyeOne and you can make a soft proof profile in minutes.  
> It's the best instrument for my money and you can segue it into  
> StudioPrint linearizations if you wish, make RGB and CMYK profiles  
> as well as calibrate monitors, etc...  QTR is setup for it to make  
> the ICC softproofs and you do not have to fool around with another  
> brand which is not as suitable to making the QTR Create-ICCs.
>
> Super easy...
>
> Jon Cone
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Terry Ritz  
> <t.ritz@...> wrote:
>>
>> Should you decide to do this after all Mark. . . .   You just need  
>> to find a
>> way to get the LAB values out of your spectro for a 21 step wedge.  
>> These
>> need to populate a relatively simple text file, which is then used  
>> to create
>> the soft proof.
>>
>> For the other poster who felt that ink and paper toning might not
>> represented, they are. With the QTR Create-ICC tools you can make  
>> profiles
>> that contain only LAB "L" data, or profiles with LAB "L", "A", and  
>> "B" data.
>>
>> I have found the soft proofs to be very useful, at leaset for my own
>> purposes. I can compare various toned and split toned approaches on  
>> screen
>> before I make my print. More recently, Jon Cone's folks sent me  
>> soft proofs
>> for his Special Edition inks, one for a six ink version and one for  
>> a seven
>> ink version. I could see how the two differed, and compare them  
>> with the
>> inkset I had at the time. Of course I followed up by having some  
>> real prints
>> made before a purchase, but I learned enough with the soft proofs  
>> to keep
>> going.
>>
>> Terry.
>>
>>
>> On 06/05/09 4:48 PM, "Mark Savoia" <mark@...> wrote:
>>
>>> You are always the guy of reason. I don't know why I want to do this
>>> either. This always happens when a new client wants to "outfox" me
>>> thinking he has a better way to do it. And you are right, 99% of
>>> clients don't know how to use it anyway, while 99% never need me to
>>> make any adjustments to their files, it IS almost perfect. Damn I  
>>> hate
>>> when your right!
>>>
>>> Although I appreciate the grounding, you can NOT have my DTP-41 :)
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't help specificallt for the dtp-41, but I'll trade ya my old
>>>> i1 for it and then you have this solved...
>>>>
>>>> You know, I went to great effort to make preview profiles for every
>>>> PTone StudioPrint ink setup I have here, warm, Selenium, splits,
>>>> blends, the whole dealy-bob, thinking I'm supplying a helpful tool
>>>> for my clients to use for file prep.
>>>> No one, not one, that I can recall since I started Custom Digital,
>>>> has requested one, and when I've suggested it, never used one.
>>>> Your StudioPrint output is probably meticulously and beautifully
>>>> linearized, and no doubt matches your working space on the monitor
>>>> just fine given the ability to target a given dot gain "out".
>>>> Soft proof icc based is just not necessary.
>>>> Just in case, if you do proceed, make sure they check "preserve
>>>> color numbers" since you won't be printing with the profile.
>>>> Tyler
>>>>
>>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
>>>> <mark@> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>
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