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Re: [Digital BW] Soft-proof "profile" for Piezotones?

2009-05-09 by Jon Cone

David,

You're constantly sales pitching your products. I'm in the market for one. I thought to take the direct approach with you and just ask a simple question whether you sell transmissive spectros. 

Jon



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Cdtobie <CDTobie@...> wrote:
>
> Was anyone discussing transmissive profiles?
> 
> C. D. Tobie
> Global Product Technology Mngr.
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> Datacolor.com
> CDTobie@...
> 
> On May 9, 2009, at 12:42 AM, "Jon Cone" <jon@...> wrote:
> 
> > David, do you guys sell a transmissive spectrophotomete?
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Cdtobie  
> > <CDTobie@> wrote:
> >>
> >> The "other brand" makes great CreateICC profiles, actually. It's what
> >> Paul Roark uses for all his measuring.
> >>
> >> C. D. Tobie
> >> Global Product Technology Mngr.
> >> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> >> Datacolor.com
> >> CDTobie@
> >>
> >> On May 8, 2009, at 3:06 PM, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mark,
> >>>
> >>> Buy they EyeOne and you can make a soft proof profile in minutes.
> >>> It's the best instrument for my money and you can segue it into
> >>> StudioPrint linearizations if you wish, make RGB and CMYK profiles
> >>> as well as calibrate monitors, etc...  QTR is setup for it to make
> >>> the ICC softproofs and you do not have to fool around with another
> >>> brand which is not as suitable to making the QTR Create-ICCs.
> >>>
> >>> Super easy...
> >>>
> >>> Jon Cone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Terry Ritz
> >>> <t.ritz@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Should you decide to do this after all Mark. . . .   You just need
> >>>> to find a
> >>>> way to get the LAB values out of your spectro for a 21 step wedge.
> >>>> These
> >>>> need to populate a relatively simple text file, which is then used
> >>>> to create
> >>>> the soft proof.
> >>>>
> >>>> For the other poster who felt that ink and paper toning might not
> >>>> represented, they are. With the QTR Create-ICC tools you can make
> >>>> profiles
> >>>> that contain only LAB "L" data, or profiles with LAB "L", "A", and
> >>>> "B" data.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have found the soft proofs to be very useful, at leaset for my  
> >>>> own
> >>>> purposes. I can compare various toned and split toned approaches on
> >>>> screen
> >>>> before I make my print. More recently, Jon Cone's folks sent me
> >>>> soft proofs
> >>>> for his Special Edition inks, one for a six ink version and one for
> >>>> a seven
> >>>> ink version. I could see how the two differed, and compare them
> >>>> with the
> >>>> inkset I had at the time. Of course I followed up by having some
> >>>> real prints
> >>>> made before a purchase, but I learned enough with the soft proofs
> >>>> to keep
> >>>> going.
> >>>>
> >>>> Terry.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 06/05/09 4:48 PM, "Mark Savoia" <mark@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> You are always the guy of reason. I don't know why I want to do  
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> either. This always happens when a new client wants to "outfox" me
> >>>>> thinking he has a better way to do it. And you are right, 99% of
> >>>>> clients don't know how to use it anyway, while 99% never need me  
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> make any adjustments to their files, it IS almost perfect. Damn I
> >>>>> hate
> >>>>> when your right!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Although I appreciate the grounding, you can NOT have my DTP-41 :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mark
> >>>>> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On May 6, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I can't help specificallt for the dtp-41, but I'll trade ya my  
> >>>>>> old
> >>>>>> i1 for it and then you have this solved...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You know, I went to great effort to make preview profiles for  
> >>>>>> every
> >>>>>> PTone StudioPrint ink setup I have here, warm, Selenium, splits,
> >>>>>> blends, the whole dealy-bob, thinking I'm supplying a helpful  
> >>>>>> tool
> >>>>>> for my clients to use for file prep.
> >>>>>> No one, not one, that I can recall since I started Custom  
> >>>>>> Digital,
> >>>>>> has requested one, and when I've suggested it, never used one.
> >>>>>> Your StudioPrint output is probably meticulously and beautifully
> >>>>>> linearized, and no doubt matches your working space on the  
> >>>>>> monitor
> >>>>>> just fine given the ability to target a given dot gain "out".
> >>>>>> Soft proof icc based is just not necessary.
> >>>>>> Just in case, if you do proceed, make sure they check "preserve
> >>>>>> color numbers" since you won't be printing with the profile.
> >>>>>> Tyler
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
> >>>>>> <mark@> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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