David, You're constantly sales pitching your products. I'm in the market for one. I thought to take the direct approach with you and just ask a simple question whether you sell transmissive spectros. Jon --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Cdtobie <CDTobie@...> wrote: > > Was anyone discussing transmissive profiles? > > C. D. Tobie > Global Product Technology Mngr. > Digital Imaging & Home Theater > Datacolor.com > CDTobie@... > > On May 9, 2009, at 12:42 AM, "Jon Cone" <jon@...> wrote: > > > David, do you guys sell a transmissive spectrophotomete? > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Cdtobie > > <CDTobie@> wrote: > >> > >> The "other brand" makes great CreateICC profiles, actually. It's what > >> Paul Roark uses for all his measuring. > >> > >> C. D. Tobie > >> Global Product Technology Mngr. > >> Digital Imaging & Home Theater > >> Datacolor.com > >> CDTobie@ > >> > >> On May 8, 2009, at 3:06 PM, "Jon Cone" <jon@> wrote: > >> > >>> Mark, > >>> > >>> Buy they EyeOne and you can make a soft proof profile in minutes. > >>> It's the best instrument for my money and you can segue it into > >>> StudioPrint linearizations if you wish, make RGB and CMYK profiles > >>> as well as calibrate monitors, etc... QTR is setup for it to make > >>> the ICC softproofs and you do not have to fool around with another > >>> brand which is not as suitable to making the QTR Create-ICCs. > >>> > >>> Super easy... > >>> > >>> Jon Cone > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Terry Ritz > >>> <t.ritz@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Should you decide to do this after all Mark. . . . You just need > >>>> to find a > >>>> way to get the LAB values out of your spectro for a 21 step wedge. > >>>> These > >>>> need to populate a relatively simple text file, which is then used > >>>> to create > >>>> the soft proof. > >>>> > >>>> For the other poster who felt that ink and paper toning might not > >>>> represented, they are. With the QTR Create-ICC tools you can make > >>>> profiles > >>>> that contain only LAB "L" data, or profiles with LAB "L", "A", and > >>>> "B" data. > >>>> > >>>> I have found the soft proofs to be very useful, at leaset for my > >>>> own > >>>> purposes. I can compare various toned and split toned approaches on > >>>> screen > >>>> before I make my print. More recently, Jon Cone's folks sent me > >>>> soft proofs > >>>> for his Special Edition inks, one for a six ink version and one for > >>>> a seven > >>>> ink version. I could see how the two differed, and compare them > >>>> with the > >>>> inkset I had at the time. Of course I followed up by having some > >>>> real prints > >>>> made before a purchase, but I learned enough with the soft proofs > >>>> to keep > >>>> going. > >>>> > >>>> Terry. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 06/05/09 4:48 PM, "Mark Savoia" <mark@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> You are always the guy of reason. I don't know why I want to do > >>>>> this > >>>>> either. This always happens when a new client wants to "outfox" me > >>>>> thinking he has a better way to do it. And you are right, 99% of > >>>>> clients don't know how to use it anyway, while 99% never need me > >>>>> to > >>>>> make any adjustments to their files, it IS almost perfect. Damn I > >>>>> hate > >>>>> when your right! > >>>>> > >>>>> Although I appreciate the grounding, you can NOT have my DTP-41 :) > >>>>> > >>>>> Mark > >>>>> http://www.stillrivereditions.com > >>>>> > >>>>> On May 6, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Tyler Boley wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I can't help specificallt for the dtp-41, but I'll trade ya my > >>>>>> old > >>>>>> i1 for it and then you have this solved... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You know, I went to great effort to make preview profiles for > >>>>>> every > >>>>>> PTone StudioPrint ink setup I have here, warm, Selenium, splits, > >>>>>> blends, the whole dealy-bob, thinking I'm supplying a helpful > >>>>>> tool > >>>>>> for my clients to use for file prep. > >>>>>> No one, not one, that I can recall since I started Custom > >>>>>> Digital, > >>>>>> has requested one, and when I've suggested it, never used one. > >>>>>> Your StudioPrint output is probably meticulously and beautifully > >>>>>> linearized, and no doubt matches your working space on the > >>>>>> monitor > >>>>>> just fine given the ability to target a given dot gain "out". > >>>>>> Soft proof icc based is just not necessary. > >>>>>> Just in case, if you do proceed, make sure they check "preserve > >>>>>> color numbers" since you won't be printing with the profile. > >>>>>> Tyler > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia > >>>>>> <mark@> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > >>> resources as they are often being updated. > >>> > >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >>> > >>> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > >>> to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > >>> this same page. > >>> > >>> Please follow these basic guidelines: > >>> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > >>> to keep them short. > >>> - Good manners are required at all time. 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Re: [Digital BW] Soft-proof "profile" for Piezotones?
2009-05-09 by Jon Cone
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