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Re: [Digital BW] Dedicatd B&W printer - is it worth it?

2009-09-03 by Walker Blackwell

The whole reason why I went dedicated bw back when I was just learning  
all this was because I didn't want to deal with complicated CMYK  
profiles and the RGB drivers just weren't up to snuff. Over the years  
I realized more and more that CMYK ink mixed into a grayscale print  
just doesn't physically work very well. QTR gets it almost their with  
its various tonal splits. Colorburst can get there with custom RGB  
Input and CMYK output profiles.  But the amount of time spent setting  
up a quality color-ink-to-bw setup has always been 4 times as long as  
dedicated Quad-split or K7. And much more complicated.

Dedicated is worth is. And you get way better physical (real-world)  
resolution with K7 dedicated. Just look at Tyler's blog for that. The  
difference between dedicated and CMYK is the same to me as the  
difference between BW on c-paper and BW on silver paper. No contest.

That said, there are times when I like the wide-open toning options  
available in a well built CMYK grayscale environment.

Walker



On Sep 3, 2009, at 9:40 AM, deanwork2003 wrote:

> That's a bit of a distortion. There is no real "learning curve"  
> unless you are mentally challenged.
>
> A learning curve is trying to make clean neutral monochrome out of  
> ABW that won't shift in color over time.
>
> So, the answer is yes, its definitely worth the trouble.
>
> john
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, C D Tobie  
> <CDTobie@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sep 2, 2009, at 5:46 PM, tboleyyh wrote:
> >
> > > One other thing I will say, to play my own devil's advocate. Some
> > > people either can not see the difference in the prints, or are
> > > unconcerned with the differences. This poster sounded like he is a
> > > fairly serious B&W worker.
> >
> >
> > Thats really the crux of the matter, Tyler, not "is it easy" but  
> "do I
> > want it"... the parenthetical part being: "want it badly enough to  
> go
> > through whatever learning curve and efforts are required."
> >
> > C. David Tobie
> > Global Product Technology Manager
> > Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> > CDTobie@...
> >
> >
> > ----------
> >
> >
> > Datacolor
> > www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
> 

Walker Blackwell
802.735.0621
www.walkerblackwell.com
aim: greendirtblues





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