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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Dedicatd B&W printer - is it worth it?

2009-09-03 by Michael King

>>But K7 is less of a step down in resolution

If you go for a 1.5pl printer (Epson R1900, 1800, 1400) then you get the
resolution as well as the tonal depth.
I run a couple R1900s and they are fantastic with K7. Only limitation is 13"
width. But mounted that's not such a limitation.

Mike

2009/9/3 Walker Blackwell <forums@...>

> 1. Much of the dedicated BW is now hex and septone not quadtone. This
> increase in nozzles and over-lap makes environment setups much easier.
> 2. When using K only through epson the ink is actually brown and you
> can't get the correct hue + not enough nozzles.
> 3. You are right, HPZs offer a pretty nice grayscale but if you look
> at the detail (compare an 8x10 from an HPZ to an 8x10 from the
> darkroom to 2880 septone from an Epson) you're loosing stuff in the
> tritone print. If you are coming from the darkroom and getting into
> digital, it's actually step down in quality. But K7 is less of a step
> down in resolution and might be a step up in tonal depth. It's a
> different beast, but that's kinda how I look at it.
>
> My whole point is, if you are the type of person who is interested in
> medium format or large format, if you are interested in fine art
> papers, if you are interested in this physicality, then K7 or
> something similar might work very well for your creativity. But it's
> not for everyone. I do a lot of proofs on K3 on 4800s using QTR to
> tell you the truth. It's because my 9600 is a bastard of a printer to
> get sweet at the moment (it's old and needs a new head next week) and
> my 4000 split quad is in Chicago.
>
> Walker
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> On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:13 PM, andrevallejo wrote:
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> > Please help me to understand this:
> > I can see that dedicated solutions like MIS inks will beat usual OEM
> > solutions easily. But what about this new printers like the Epson
> > 2800 or Hp Z3000 that have the 2 blacks plus 2 grays and use 3 of
> > them to make the prints? (meaning nutral prints only). Since we know
> > only 3 shades are necessary to print smooth BW,why a dedicated
> > printer would do any better?
> >
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> > Who has experience with the 2880 using MIS empty chipped cartridges
> > and K4 inks? Any significant differences for a dedicated system. And
> > going this way can I print with just the black/gray inks with no
> > color inks being throwed on the paper? I do have ColorByte PrintFix
> > to make the profiles...
> > I ask because after many years I'm about to change my 1160/FSN for
> > something new, 13"is enough for me, and I want to print color
> > sometimes... And the choosing is torturing me...(OEM inks are not a
> > choice...)
> > Andr�
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> Walker Blackwell
> 802.735.0621
> www.walkerblackwell.com
> aim: greendirtblues
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