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Re: Scanning B&W

2010-01-24 by frankg_photo

Yes, it's an hourly rental.And yes, all time is charged including writing the files (to cd).

"-120  being the actual  off setting or true 0" - I wonder if anyone with an Imacon (848) and Flexcolor 4.6 can verify this?

"a little above and below clipping points dmax and dmin" - do you mean to keep the triangles a little off the edge of the histogram ?

Is there a place to set the gamma/midpoints other than the middle triangle of the histogram ?


Frank

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E.Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
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> Frank, I am assuming this is an hourly rental or a day structure; 1/2 or
> full day. Besides the scanning time, are you also being charged to write
> your files to your own media? or are you hooking up your own external drive?
> Did you give your self some test files to play with at various setting
> keeping the scanned area at the same ppi? This allows you to run a few sets
> of tests to see what those scan software setting are doing to your images. 
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> I remember it (-120)  being the actual  off setting or true 0.  I typically
> give my self a little above and below clipping points dmax and dmin, and
> highly recommend it on a rented scanner to avoid clipping. See what they
> have defaults set to but you don't want to waste time rescanning only
> because you clipped your detail some place. 
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> Eric Neilsen
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> Eric Neilsen Photography
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> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
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> Dallas, TX 75226
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> www.ericneilsenphotography.com
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> skype me with ejprinter
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> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> frankg_photo
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:18 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Scanning B
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> We live and learn.
> I rented time and the scans are ok, but not great.
> I'll do better next time now that I'm more familiar with the interface and
> will be less panicked about maximizing my rental time at the lab. I could
> use a little more clarification from users please:
> 
> Re: USM at -120
> I had the usm palette boxes all set to 0 (one of the usm settings, I forget
> which, kept defaulting to 1) and indeed the grain is pronounced in some
> negs.
> Is -120 a general consensus done by empirical testing, or a rcommendation by
> flexcolor ?
> 
> Using photokit after - do you change mode to rgb> select Capture sharpeer>35
> fast negative (as appropriate) > medium edge sharpen (as appropriate ?
> 
> AF icon (auto focus?) - there is a little AF icon/button - should this be
> 'dark' or 'light/faded' ? Some scans appear a tad soft?
> 
> Gamma - is there a place to set this to 2.2 ? 
> 
> I used the levels histogram, and found that the A (auto) worked well to
> bring the white and black points to the edges of the histogram. I could
> manually change them as well as the midpoint. And I could also change the
> midtones with Gradations/curves. But...my scans are still mostly too light
> and flat.
> 
> I selected Greyscale 16 bit B&W negative. I figured that the film grain
> would overide a bit of noise and the benefit of rgb. The files were 100mb
> anyway as GS.
> 
> What is the maximum Optical (non interpolated) res of the Imacon (848) - I
> used 6300ppi.
> 
> Unfortunately there was no-one to train me just a young person that clearly
> didn't know the answers to any of this.
> 
> Thanks for any further clarification.
> Frank
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhit
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Kohl <pkohl@> wrote:
> >
> > I use an Imacon Flextight regularly and have done tests on black and 
> > white negative scanning. My results are that scanning as a greyscale 
> > positive gets me the most efficient and tonally comprehensive scans, 
> > as another poster recommended. One important thing is to set the 
> > Texture/Unsharp masking sharpening setting to -120 or else the 
> > software will sharpen the image. This sharpening will increase grain 
> > presence in the image.
> > I sharpen later in PS using the Photokit sharpened plug-in.
> > The Imacon is a great machine.
> > Good luck with it.
> > Paul
> >
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