Digital BW, The Print

No more Epson ink for me. I'm about to order refillable carts for my Epson R2400 and would like to hear some opinions on which chips to purchase. There are the manual reset chips and the ARC automatic reset chips. The manual chips seem pretty self-explanatory, however the ARC chips seem a little confusing, at least to me. Ideally I'd like to leave the new refillable, "top fill" carts in the machine and top them off when needed. But my research comes up with a variety of opinions that suggest using the ARC chips may not be as easy and straightforward as I'm hoping for. So do a few of the many readers of this great forum have actual experience with these chips that you could share?

Using my new ARC refillable carts from MIS Associates, I thought also just to refill them in the printer. They say that turning the printer off then on is resetting the chip. I wrote to MIs Associates and they told me that I still have to remove the cartridge, refill (with the same method as for the first filling) then put it back in the printer. That should do the trick.

Too bad I can't refill the cartridge in the printer. I'll do what they say.

Up to now, everything work like a breeze!



Jacques Caron
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> Date : 15 f�vrier 2013 14:59:29 HNE
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> No more Epson ink for me. I'm about to order refillable carts for my Epson R2400 and would like to hear some opinions on which chips to purchase. There are the manual reset chips and the ARC automatic reset chips. The manual chips seem pretty self-explanatory, however the ARC chips seem a little confusing, at least to me. Ideally I'd like to leave the new refillable, "top fill" carts in the machine and top them off when needed. But my research comes up with a variety of opinions that suggest using the ARC chips may not be as easy and straightforward as I'm hoping for. So do a few of the many readers of this great forum have actual experience with these chips that you could share?
> 
> 


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I don't know which company's chips you're looking at, but with
MIS/Inksupply.com, the desktop printers seem to all use the auto-reset
types.

It's nice to not have to mess with a resetter and resetting, but the
auto-reset chips/carts end up being out of sync in that the status monitor
does not show how much ink is in the cart.

Paul

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Michael <michael3442@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> No more Epson ink for me. I'm about to order refillable carts for my Epson
> R2400 and would like to hear some opinions on which chips to purchase.
> There are the manual reset chips and the ARC automatic reset chips. The
> manual chips seem pretty self-explanatory, however the ARC chips seem a
> little confusing, at least to me. Ideally I'd like to leave the new
> refillable, "top fill" carts in the machine and top them off when needed.
> But my research comes up with a variety of opinions that suggest using the
> ARC chips may not be as easy and straightforward as I'm hoping for. So do a
> few of the many readers of this great forum have actual experience with
> these chips that you could share?
>
>  
>


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Not so on the R3000.  MIS, at least, must be removed and re-inserted to 
reset.  However, they will NOT reset until they think they are below 10%.

My answer is to just keep them mostly full so I can continue without 
worry after the warning.  Later I just pull and replace.

Seth

First - It is really important not to mix the set of carts in the machine between the ARC  and manual reset chips. All of one or all of the other -- Second - best way to manage ARC cart set is to have 2 sets - as the inks do not get used at the same rate one or two carts will empty before the others - have a full set waiting - pull all of the carts- replace all of your positions with full carts - reset and go - then refill the set you have removed - do the math, two sets of ARC carts cost less than a CIS - and  can be  almost as convenient - and much less wasteful if you like to change inksets - BTW the two sets of carts regimen also works well for manual reset carts -


Berel Lutsky
Associate Professor of Art
UW Manitowoc
920-683-4735

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:59 am (PST) . Posted by: 
"Michael" michael3442 
 
 
1) No more Epson ink for me. I'm about to order refillable carts for my Epson 
R2400 and would like to hear some opinions on which chips to purchase. There are 
the manual reset chips and the ARC automatic reset chips. The manual chips seem 
pretty self-explanatory, however the ARC chips seem a little confusing, at least 
to me. Ideally I'd like to leave the new refillable, "top fill" carts in the 
machine and top them off when needed. But my research comes up with a variety of 
opinions that suggest using the ARC chips may not be as easy and straightforward 
as I'm hoping for. So do a few of the many readers of this great forum have 
actual experience with these chips that you could share?


Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:10 pm (PST) . Posted by: 
"Jacques Caron" jacquescrn 
 
 
2) Using my new ARC refillable carts from MIS Associates, I thought also just to 
refill them in the printer. They say that turning the printer off then on is 
resetting the chip. I wrote to MIs Associates and they told me that I still have 
to remove the cartridge, refill (with the same method as for the first filling) 
then put it back in the printer. That should do the trick.
++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
1) For color printing I found it just as easy to refill and reset the OEM 
cartridge I looked on ebay and found some used empty OEM carts for less than $1 
in bulk still less than an ARC cartridge set. I have a set of MIS cartridges but 
during print runs wanted to have several sets around so it made replacing and 
keeping printing much faster than stopping having to get out the inks and then 
refill while printing this is a fine place to make a refill error and I just 
found it much easier to have several cartridges ready to go for color. for B&W 
the printing is more deliberate so not as much a need for having a number of 
cartridges ready to go although I do have an extra set for purging the head when 
I will be away for some time.
 
2) I have refilled a different model epson and hp printers with the cartridge in 
the printer. Sometimes it was necessary to reset the cartridge As time passed 
and printers became smarter it got more complicated to do this type of refill. 
This may be the reason as perhaps the printer sees a resetting as a new 
cartridge like a chip resetter function. another reason is that it is dificult 
to know when you are full so the ink will overfill and pool n the top of the 
cartridge and possibly drips could get inside the chasis of the printer. Since 
the chip on the cartridge is just above the chip getting ink in there could 
really do some serious damage to the contact surfaces.
 
Bill Lewis

Dear all on this thread,

I have a 2880 with refillable carts and auto-reset chips. These chips 
stop the printer, sometimes in mid print, when one cart needs to be 
refilled. The "empty" cart must be removed from the printer and refilled 
and then re-inserted in the printer at which time it resets and the 
printer goes through a cleaning cycle as if an OEM cart were replaced. 
Then the printer finishes printing any print that was interrupted on a 
_separate_ piece of paper, argh!!

If another cart is, say, 5 prints from its re-set then the whole process 
is repeated for that cart, including another cleaning cycle and a 
posssible spoiled print.

This process was annoying and wasted lots of ink and sometimes paper as 
well. I noticed that Inkjetmall (Jon Cone) was offering a chip resetter 
for these types of carts and I bought one.

What I do now is keep track of ink levels by looking at the ink levels 
in the Epson driver. When one cart is near "empty" I remove, refill and 
reset _all_ the carts. Then there is just one cleaning routine and I am 
good to go until one of the carts shows near  "empty" again, I can print 
a lot longer because the cart set starts with all carts _full_. This 
cuts down on the cleaning cycles and there is no waste of paper.

Hope this helps,

Cheers

*****************************************

On 2/16/2013 11:28 AM, Bill Lewis wrote:
>
> Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:59 am (PST) . Posted by:
> "Michael" michael3442
>
>
> 1) No more Epson ink for me. I'm about to order refillable carts for 
> my Epson
> R2400 and would like to hear some opinions on which chips to purchase. 
> There are
> the manual reset chips and the ARC automatic reset chips. The manual 
> chips seem
> pretty self-explanatory, however the ARC chips seem a little 
> confusing, at least
> to me. Ideally I'd like to leave the new refillable, "top fill" carts 
> in the
> machine and top them off when needed. But my research comes up with a 
> variety of
> opinions that suggest using the ARC chips may not be as easy and 
> straightforward
> as I'm hoping for. So do a few of the many readers of this great forum 
> have
> actual experience with these chips that you could share?
>
> Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:10 pm (PST) . Posted by:
> "Jacques Caron" jacquescrn
>
>
> 2) Using my new ARC refillable carts from MIS Associates, I thought 
> also just to
> refill them in the printer. They say that turning the printer off then 
> on is
> resetting the chip. I wrote to MIs Associates and they told me that I 
> still have
> to remove the cartridge, refill (with the same method as for the first 
> filling)
> then put it back in the printer. That should do the trick.
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> 1) For color printing I found it just as easy to refill and reset the OEM
> cartridge I looked on ebay and found some used empty OEM carts for 
> less than $1
> in bulk still less than an ARC cartridge set. I have a set of MIS 
> cartridges but
> during print runs wanted to have several sets around so it made 
> replacing and
> keeping printing much faster than stopping having to get out the inks 
> and then
> refill while printing this is a fine place to make a refill error and 
> I just
> found it much easier to have several cartridges ready to go for color. 
> for B&W
> the printing is more deliberate so not as much a need for having a 
> number of
> cartridges ready to go although I do have an extra set for purging the 
> head when
> I will be away for some time.
>
> 2) I have refilled a different model epson and hp printers with the 
> cartridge in
> the printer. Sometimes it was necessary to reset the cartridge As time 
> passed
> and printers became smarter it got more complicated to do this type of 
> refill.
> This may be the reason as perhaps the printer sees a resetting as a new
> cartridge like a chip resetter function. another reason is that it is 
> dificult
> to know when you are full so the ink will overfill and pool n the top 
> of the
> cartridge and possibly drips could get inside the chasis of the 
> printer. Since
> the chip on the cartridge is just above the chip getting ink in there 
> could
> really do some serious damage to the contact surfaces.
>
> Bill Lewis
>
> 

-- 
Default-WH

William Harvey

From the Beautiful Napa Valley, U.S.A

And

Mas de Cazes

Parisot 82160

France

Lat. = 44 degrees, 15.1 minutes North

Long. = 1 degrees, 50.6 minutes East



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On my Stylus Photo 1500 (same as Artisan 1430 in the States), with MIS Auto Reset Chips.  If you remove, refill and replace a cart which wasn't indicating empty, or at least below warning level.  It will not be recognised as full, so will indicate empty when the cart is still actually quite full.  I would suggest you only refill this printer/cart combo when the warning shows and only the indicated cart.

I don't know if this feature is over-ridden if you short out the two top terminals on the chip and am wary of trying it.

My printer has always stopped between prints when it thinks a cart is near empty.

Ross

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, William Harvey <will@...> wrote:

>
> Dear all on this thread,
> 
> I have a 2880 with refillable carts and auto-reset chips. These chips 
> stop the printer, sometimes in mid print, when one cart needs to be 
> refilled. The "empty" cart must be removed from the printer and refilled 
> and then re-inserted in the printer at which time it resets and the 
> printer goes through a cleaning cycle as if an OEM cart were replaced. 
> Then the printer finishes printing any print that was interrupted on a 
> _separate_ piece of paper, argh!!
> 
> If another cart is, say, 5 prints from its re-set then the whole process 
> is repeated for that cart, including another cleaning cycle and a 
> posssible spoiled print.
> 
> This process was annoying and wasted lots of ink and sometimes paper as 
> well. I noticed that Inkjetmall (Jon Cone) was offering a chip resetter 
> for these types of carts and I bought one.
> 
> What I do now is keep track of ink levels by looking at the ink levels 
> in the Epson driver. When one cart is near "empty" I remove, refill and 
> reset _all_ the carts. Then there is just one cleaning routine and I am 
> good to go until one of the carts shows near  "empty" again, I can print 
> a lot longer because the cart set starts with all carts _full_. This 
> cuts down on the cleaning cycles and there is no waste of paper.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Cheers
> 
> *****************************************
> 
> On 2/16/2013 11:28 AM, Bill Lewis wrote:
> >
> > Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:59 am (PST) . Posted by:
> > "Michael" michael3442
> >
> >
> > 1) No more Epson ink for me. I'm about to order refillable carts for 
> > my Epson
> > R2400 and would like to hear some opinions on which chips to purchase. 
> > There are
> > the manual reset chips and the ARC automatic reset chips. The manual 
> > chips seem
> > pretty self-explanatory, however the ARC chips seem a little 
> > confusing, at least
> > to me. Ideally I'd like to leave the new refillable, "top fill" carts 
> > in the
> > machine and top them off when needed. But my research comes up with a 
> > variety of
> > opinions that suggest using the ARC chips may not be as easy and 
> > straightforward
> > as I'm hoping for. So do a few of the many readers of this great forum 
> > have
> > actual experience with these chips that you could share?
> >
> > Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:10 pm (PST) . Posted by:
> > "Jacques Caron" jacquescrn
> >
> >
> > 2) Using my new ARC refillable carts from MIS Associates, I thought 
> > also just to
> > refill them in the printer. They say that turning the printer off then 
> > on is
> > resetting the chip. I wrote to MIs Associates and they told me that I 
> > still have
> > to remove the cartridge, refill (with the same method as for the first 
> > filling)
> > then put it back in the printer. That should do the trick.
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > 1) For color printing I found it just as easy to refill and reset the OEM
> > cartridge I looked on ebay and found some used empty OEM carts for 
> > less than $1
> > in bulk still less than an ARC cartridge set. I have a set of MIS 
> > cartridges but
> > during print runs wanted to have several sets around so it made 
> > replacing and
> > keeping printing much faster than stopping having to get out the inks 
> > and then
> > refill while printing this is a fine place to make a refill error and 
> > I just
> > found it much easier to have several cartridges ready to go for color. 
> > for B&W
> > the printing is more deliberate so not as much a need for having a 
> > number of
> > cartridges ready to go although I do have an extra set for purging the 
> > head when
> > I will be away for some time.
> >
> > 2) I have refilled a different model epson and hp printers with the 
> > cartridge in
> > the printer. Sometimes it was necessary to reset the cartridge As time 
> > passed
> > and printers became smarter it got more complicated to do this type of 
> > refill.
> > This may be the reason as perhaps the printer sees a resetting as a new
> > cartridge like a chip resetter function. another reason is that it is 
> > dificult
> > to know when you are full so the ink will overfill and pool n the top 
> > of the
> > cartridge and possibly drips could get inside the chasis of the 
> > printer. Since
> > the chip on the cartridge is just above the chip getting ink in there 
> > could
> > really do some serious damage to the contact surfaces.
> >
> > Bill Lewis
> >
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Default-WH
> 
> William Harvey
> 
> From the Beautiful Napa Valley, U.S.A
> 
> And
> 
> Mas de Cazes
> 
> Parisot 82160
> 
> France
> 
> Lat. = 44 degrees, 15.1 minutes North
> 
> Long. = 1 degrees, 50.6 minutes East
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

But if you fill and RESET the cart with a cart resetter then it will 
show full!

Read 2nd the message below!

By filling all of the carts and resetting all of them when only only 1 
cart truly is "empty" then they all show full and there is only 1 
cleaning routine.

Cheers

******************************
On 2/17/2013 8:05 AM, rossfmj wrote:
>
> On my Stylus Photo 1500 (same as Artisan 1430 in the States), with MIS 
> Auto Reset Chips. If you remove, refill and replace a cart which 
> wasn't indicating empty, or at least below warning level. It will not 
> be recognised as full, so will indicate empty when the cart is still 
> actually quite full. I would suggest you only refill this printer/cart 
> combo when the warning shows and only the indicated cart.
>
> I don't know if this feature is over-ridden if you short out the two 
> top terminals on the chip and am wary of trying it.
>
> My printer has always stopped between prints when it thinks a cart is 
> near empty.
>
> Ross
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>, William 
> Harvey wrote:
> >
> > Dear all on this thread,
> >
> > I have a 2880 with refillable carts and auto-reset chips. These chips
> > stop the printer, sometimes in mid print, when one cart needs to be
> > refilled. The "empty" cart must be removed from the printer and 
> refilled
> > and then re-inserted in the printer at which time it resets and the
> > printer goes through a cleaning cycle as if an OEM cart were replaced.
> > Then the printer finishes printing any print that was interrupted on a
> > _separate_ piece of paper, argh!!
> >
> > If another cart is, say, 5 prints from its re-set then the whole 
> process
> > is repeated for that cart, including another cleaning cycle and a
> > posssible spoiled print.
> >
> > This process was annoying and wasted lots of ink and sometimes paper as
> > well. I noticed that Inkjetmall (Jon Cone) was offering a chip resetter
> > for these types of carts and I bought one.
> >
> > What I do now is keep track of ink levels by looking at the ink levels
> > in the Epson driver. When one cart is near "empty" I remove, refill and
> > reset _all_ the carts. Then there is just one cleaning routine and I am
> > good to go until one of the carts shows near "empty" again, I can print
> > a lot longer because the cart set starts with all carts _full_. This
> > cuts down on the cleaning cycles and there is no waste of paper.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > *****************************************
> >
> > On 2/16/2013 11:28 AM, Bill Lewis wrote:
> > >
> > > Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:59 am (PST) . Posted by:
> > > "Michael" michael3442
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) No more Epson ink for me. I'm about to order refillable carts for
> > > my Epson
> > > R2400 and would like to hear some opinions on which chips to 
> purchase.
> > > There are
> > > the manual reset chips and the ARC automatic reset chips. The manual
> > > chips seem
> > > pretty self-explanatory, however the ARC chips seem a little
> > > confusing, at least
> > > to me. Ideally I'd like to leave the new refillable, "top fill" carts
> > > in the
> > > machine and top them off when needed. But my research comes up with a
> > > variety of
> > > opinions that suggest using the ARC chips may not be as easy and
> > > straightforward
> > > as I'm hoping for. So do a few of the many readers of this great 
> forum
> > > have
> > > actual experience with these chips that you could share?
> > >
> > > Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:10 pm (PST) . Posted by:
> > > "Jacques Caron" jacquescrn
> > >
> > >
> > > 2) Using my new ARC refillable carts from MIS Associates, I thought
> > > also just to
> > > refill them in the printer. They say that turning the printer off 
> then
> > > on is
> > > resetting the chip. I wrote to MIs Associates and they told me that I
> > > still have
> > > to remove the cartridge, refill (with the same method as for the 
> first
> > > filling)
> > > then put it back in the printer. That should do the trick.
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >
> > > 1) For color printing I found it just as easy to refill and reset 
> the OEM
> > > cartridge I looked on ebay and found some used empty OEM carts for
> > > less than $1
> > > in bulk still less than an ARC cartridge set. I have a set of MIS
> > > cartridges but
> > > during print runs wanted to have several sets around so it made
> > > replacing and
> > > keeping printing much faster than stopping having to get out the inks
> > > and then
> > > refill while printing this is a fine place to make a refill error and
> > > I just
> > > found it much easier to have several cartridges ready to go for 
> color.
> > > for B&W
> > > the printing is more deliberate so not as much a need for having a
> > > number of
> > > cartridges ready to go although I do have an extra set for purging 
> the
> > > head when
> > > I will be away for some time.
> > >
> > > 2) I have refilled a different model epson and hp printers with the
> > > cartridge in
> > > the printer. Sometimes it was necessary to reset the cartridge As 
> time
> > > passed
> > > and printers became smarter it got more complicated to do this 
> type of
> > > refill.
> > > This may be the reason as perhaps the printer sees a resetting as 
> a new
> > > cartridge like a chip resetter function. another reason is that it is
> > > dificult
> > > to know when you are full so the ink will overfill and pool n the top
> > > of the
> > > cartridge and possibly drips could get inside the chasis of the
> > > printer. Since
> > > the chip on the cartridge is just above the chip getting ink in there
> > > could
> > > really do some serious damage to the contact surfaces.
> > >
> > > Bill Lewis
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Default-WH
> >
> > William Harvey
> >
> > From the Beautiful Napa Valley, U.S.A
> >
> > And
> >
> > Mas de Cazes
> >
> > Parisot 82160
> >
> > France
> >
> > Lat. = 44 degrees, 15.1 minutes North
> >
> > Long. = 1 degrees, 50.6 minutes East
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> 

-- 
Default-WH

William Harvey

From the Beautiful Napa Valley, U.S.A

And

Mas de Cazes

Parisot 82160

France

Lat. = 44 degrees, 15.1 minutes North

Long. = 1 degrees, 50.6 minutes East



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I've been refilling MIS carts in a 1400 for about two years. As far as I can tell, when the MIS carts run out, they just run out. They don't notify you or stop printing. My SOP with them has been to top all the inks whenever I top any of them and always check their level before beginning any important printing. Otherwise, I leave them alone until I run out. 

This said, I have been using five sets of ink in the printer - two color and three B&W. I recently purchased a new 1430, which is a dedicated color printer and the old 1400 is a dedicated B&W printer. I won't need to be changing, and therefore inspecting, my cartridges as often. I may need to rethink my practice.

When a cart is replaced/refilled/reset on an Epson printer, and a cleaning cycle is run, does the actual cleaning occur on all carts? Or, is the printer configured to only clean the cart that has been replaced?

(Please trim your messages of irrelevant former posts; thanks.)


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FWIW here's my two cents.   I have a 1430 and a set of generic refillable
carts (from China via eBay) with version 6.0 chips. My 1430 recognizes them
as genuine Epson carts which I think is a hoot. While printing when a cart
signals empty the print job pauses and indicates which cart it thinks is
empty. I remove that cart, refill the ink, put it back in and after a
cleaning cycle the print job resumes where it left off even if in the middle
of a print. The chip on the cart is reset to full so I guess that they are
ARC chips. I notice that there is between 1 and 2 ccs of ink remaining in
the cart when it indicates empty so I presume that a real Epson cart would
exhibit the same behavior.

 

HTH,

Tom 

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
remononaz1
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:11 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re:Refillable carts & auto reset chips

 

  

I've been refilling MIS carts in a 1400 for about two years. As far as I can
tell, when the MIS carts run out, they just run out. They don't notify you
or stop printing. My SOP with them has been to top all the inks whenever I
top any of them and always check their level before beginning any important
printing. Otherwise, I leave them alone until I run out. 

This said, I have been using five sets of ink in the printer - two color and
three B&W. I recently purchased a new 1430, which is a dedicated color
printer and the old 1400 is a dedicated B&W printer. I won't need to be
changing, and therefore inspecting, my cartridges as often. I may need to
rethink my practice.





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Distributors chime in.<br><br>Pursuing this issue of ARC carts a little
further, I emailed the  customer service representatives at both Ink Owl
and Precision Colors.  Here's what they say:<br><br>From Ink Owl (<a
id="yui_3_7_2_1_1361141185244_4735" target="_blank"
href="http://inkowl.com"><span class="yshortcuts"
id="lw_1361205147_0">inkowl.com</span></a>)<br>A couple of questions
about your ink and cartridges for my Epson R2400.<br><br>a)  Do your
empty carts with auto-resetting chips work with the Epson  printer
driver to show the declining level of the inks in the driver's  ink
cartridge graphic? Or, do they only show full when they reset and do 
not show the ink declining in the Epson graphic?<br><br><b>They show any
accurate level.</b><br><br>b) Is your ink made by Image Specialists in
Michigan?<br><br><b>NO, the ink is made by GSC Imaging in the USA. It
works fantastically.</b><br> <br>Thanks,<br><br>And from
PrecisionColors:<br><br><b>On these, the ink levels will move down as
the ink is consumed. When it  goes to zero and it is refilled and reset,
they are both coordinated again.<br>On  this particular iteration, the
ARC resetter can reset to full on  demand, if you decide to top off all
at the same time. This way all  colors are refilled and all reset to
full at the same time.<br></b><br><a id="yui_3_7_2_1_1361141185244_4739"
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pan></a><br><br>So,  both of these distributors say the ARC chips show
the ink levels in the  carts as declining in the graphic in the Epson
printer driver.   Comments?<br>

<b>Ink Monitor Settings</b>.<br><br>When I pull up the "Monitoring
Preferences" from the icon in the tray for my Epson R2400, I'm given the
choice to check/uncheck the <b>"Ink Low"</b> notification; the default
is to have this unchecked. When we talk about ARC chips, I think we need
to indicate whether we're refilling/resetting the chips when the "Ink
Low" popup appears. When that notification appears, we have two choices,
a) refill/reset immediately, or b) continue printing until the printer
senses an empty cart and stops. If the "Ink Low" check box <b>is not
checked</b>, then our only notification is when the printer stops and
displays a "Ink Out"(?) popup. <u>So, when are you refilling and/or
resetting?</u>

I asked this over in the Epson group, but thinking not everyone visits both groups, I'd like to repeat it here just to see what folks here have to say.

I use an Epson R1800, and am using refillable cartridges from MIS. Here's an example of a cartridge I use, Photo Black, followed by the MIS description:

ARC-TO541-EC EMPTY PHOTO BLACK TO541(TO54120) CARTRIDGE W/STD CHIP

I see the the word "ARC" is in the product name. Does that mean Auto Reset Chip? But then I see in the description it says the cartridge uses a "STD CHIP" which I assume means Standard. So does that mean the chip is not auto resetting, but needs to be reset with a chip resetter?

I've been manually resetting the chips on these carts for years. If I forget to reset a cart, the ink level graphic will show the cart as not yet full. So when I pull the cart and reset it, the graphic then shows full. This tells me they are not resetting automatically. But then why the ARC in the product name?

Sorry folks, but I am seriously confused!

sorry folks, I see I already asked this here. But this thread seems a little more active, so perhaps you'll forgive my indiscretion!

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <paulmwhiting@...> wrote:

>
> I asked this over in the Epson group, but thinking not everyone visits both groups, I'd like to repeat it here just to see what folks here have to say.
> 
> I use an Epson R1800, and am using refillable cartridges from MIS. Here's an example of a cartridge I use, Photo Black, followed by the MIS description:
> 
> ARC-TO541-EC EMPTY PHOTO BLACK TO541(TO54120) CARTRIDGE W/STD CHIP
> 
> I see the the word "ARC" is in the product name. Does that mean Auto Reset Chip? But then I see in the description it says the cartridge uses a "STD CHIP" which I assume means Standard. So does that mean the chip is not auto resetting, but needs to be reset with a chip resetter?
> 
> I've been manually resetting the chips on these carts for years. If I forget to reset a cart, the ink level graphic will show the cart as not yet full. So when I pull the cart and reset it, the graphic then shows full. This tells me they are not resetting automatically. But then why the ARC in the product name?
> 
> Sorry folks, but I am seriously confused!
>