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Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-19 by geo@...

Hi all,


first of all, thank you for this incredible resource and for sharing all this knowledge. I have studied the topics here intensely and feel ready to make the jump into pure B/W printing.


I do large formats exclusively, and got a venerate Epson 10000CF. For some reason, I can find relatively little information on that particular model, and it does not seem to be supported by QTR. However, I managed to get to know the Gutenprint driver pretty well in my calibration processes (inevitably learning far too much about metamerism) and feel confident of using it to control my proposed setup.


What I am thinking about is starting off with Paul's Eb6 configuration, possibly swapping C and LC for diluted Vivera black later on if I need to produce cooler tones, controlling the direction with gutenprint's cmy balance dials. Does that seem like a reasonable concept?


I'd appreciate any feedback,


thanks, G

Re: [Digital BW] Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by Paul Roark

geo@... wrote:
...

got a venerate Epson 10000CF. ...

...

What I am thinking about is starting off with Paul's Eb6 configuration, ...

I have never worked with an Epson 10000. However, that printer model seems to often be grouped with the 7500, which I had and ran Eboni-6 in. The 10000 seems to be more modern in some respects. For example, it appears to have a variable drop with a drop size down to 5 pl, which is a little smaller than the 7500.

There are some individuals in this list who have used the 10000, so questions about the printer are something they'll know much more about than I.

In general, I believe Eboni-6 will run on virtually any Epson inkjet printer, and the general Eboni-6 PDF should apply. See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf

Unfortunately my 7500-Eboni-6.PDF seems to have been lost in my consolidating much of the Eboni-6 materials into the current Eboni-6 PDF. The Eboni-6 PDF that is most recently updated is the one for the 7800, which I currently use. I print the vast majority of my carbon prints on this printer now. See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/7800-EbHP-2013.pdf

With my 7500, the relatively larger drops were a mixed bag. Eboni-6 is more neutral with some papers. On coated matte papers the 7500 usually printed quite well. I still have a large panorama on my wall that was done with that printer, Eboni-6, and Premier Art Smooth BW paper, and it that holds up very well on close inspection. I was actually able to make truly cold tone prints with that paper, Eb6 and the 7500. The Lab B stayed negative through the entire image range.

However, the 7500 did not print as smoothly as I'd like on Arches watercolor paper. (If you do not have a rip, the Epson driver is unlikely to be able to deliver enough ink to get a good dmax on Arches anyway.)

I hope the 10000 has better carts than the 7500. The main negative issue I had with the 7500 was that the carts did not have the modern Epson coupling that allowed them to be reliably removed for agitation and re-inserted without leaking. The 7500 carts just used a rubber plug on the cart and a fairly sharp tap on the printer. Eboni-6 should be agitated somewhat more than one would do with standard Epson inks.

For what they are worth, I put my old photoshop curves for Eboni-6 and the 7500 here: http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/7500-Eboni-6.zip

These can give you an idea of how I partitioned the inks using PS and the Epson driver. I particularly liked, at one point, the use of QTR's Create ICC-RGB to make ICCs that could control the driver/inks.

The use of ICCs has become harder with Adobe and the OS people trying to control or dumb down color management. So, whether your setup would allow easy use of this workflow may depend on your software. One nice thing about the Create ICC-RGB approach is that it had a linearization step that allowed one to make a less than perfect PS curve.

In the "old days," I could use an ICC with the driver set to Color Controls. This is not allowed by modern software. I don't know whether the old curves in my Zip file used that setting or not.

If no ICC is used, the Epson driver set to Color Controls with gamma 2.2 usually prints rather well. I';m not sure if it'll be smooth enough with the 10000, but it's an easy way to start.

At any rate, good luck with the 10000 and Eb6. It ought to work fine. The carts and whether they can be reliably pulled for agitation is something I'd look into.

Paul

Re: [Digital BW] Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by Ernst Dinkla

Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] schreef 
op 20-6-2014 5:05:
>
>
> I hope the 10000 has better carts than the 7500.  The main negative 
> issue I had with the 7500 was that the carts did not have the modern 
> Epson coupling that allowed them to be reliably removed for agitation 
> and re-inserted without leaking.  The 7500 carts just used a rubber 
> plug on the cart and a fairly sharp tap on the printer.  Eboni-6 
> should be agitated somewhat more than one would do with standard Epson 
> inks.
>
> For what they are worth, I put my old photoshop curves for Eboni-6 and 
> the 7500 here: http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/7500-Eboni-6.zip
>
> These can give you an idea of how I partitioned the inks using PS and 
> the Epson driver.  I particularly liked, at one point, the use of 
> QTR's Create ICC-RGB to make ICCs that could control the driver/inks.
>
> The use of ICCs has become harder with Adobe and the OS people trying 
> to control or dumb down color management.  So, whether your setup 
> would allow easy use of this workflow may depend on your software. 
>  One nice thing about the Create ICC-RGB approach is that it had a 
> linearization step that allowed one to make a less than perfect PS curve.
>
> In the "old days," I could use an ICC with the driver set to Color 
> Controls.  This is not allowed by modern software.  I don't know 
> whether the old curves in my Zip file used that setting or not.
>
> If no ICC is used, the Epson driver set to Color Controls with gamma 
> 2.2 usually prints rather well.  I'm not sure if it'll be smooth 
> enough with the 10000, but it's an easy way to start.
>
> At any rate, good luck with the 10000 and Eb6.  It ought to work fine. 
>  The carts and whether they can be reliably pulled for agitation is 
> something I'd look into.
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.PaulRoark.com>
>
>

The 10000CF carts are of the same air pressurised type that Epson uses 
from the x600 range up to the 3880 model so not related to the 7000-7500 
carts. Same ink slot connection too.  500 ML each. For refilling the 
backflow valve has to be punctured. I have some images and possibly the 
instructions somewhere. A chip resetter is needed, MIS may still have 
them. The 10000CF here has been idle for many years now and it had 
issues then so the chance I can resurrect it will be minimal.

I would use the PS curves > QTR created B&W(RGB) ICC profile route and 
printing from Qimage Ultimate on Windows. There will not be a color 
management interception by Windows or the Epson driver if managed properly.
Using it for my HP Z3100 and B&W printing.

AFAIK driving the 10000CF from QTR itself has never been trouble free if 
at all possible. I do not think I ever saw Gutenprint or Gimpprint 
support the 10000CF and it fell driver wise between the 9500 and 9600 
Epson range. RIPs like Ergosoft Studio are better candidates. That said 
my guess is that today's dithering and weaving algorithms will be better 
in Gutenprint than they were in the old Epson driver.

Ernst Dinkla

Re: [Digital BW] Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by Paul Roark

Ernst wrote:

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The 10000CF carts are of the same air pressurised type that Epson uses from the x600 range up to the 3880 model so not related to the 7000-7500 carts. ...

The 7600 carts didn't have the backflow valves or air pressurization. (I still use a 4000 that uses the same cart design and briefly ran Eboni-6 on a 7600.) So, maybe the 10000 carts are more like the 7800 carts I currently use that do have those attributes. The backflow valves can be dealt with rather easily. At any rate, the basic cart-to-printer couplings of these carts -- 7600 on -- is robust and facilitates agitation. It's fairly easy to just rinse Epson carts, refill them, and reset the chip.

...
I would use the PS curves > QTR created B&W(RGB) ICC profile route and printing from Qimage Ultimate on Windows. There will not be a color management interception by Windows or the Epson driver if managed properly.
Using it for my HP Z3100 and B&W printing.

It's good to know that Qimage gets around the CM issues on the Windows platform. QTR's new Print Tool apparently takes care of that problem for the Mac platform. (I'm Windows and not familiar with the details of the relatively new Mac print tool.) See http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRprinttool.html

Paul


Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by e.dinkla@...

Paul, you are correct. 9800 and upwards. The 10000CF and dye version were introduced together with the 7500 and 9500, the 10600 Ultrachrome with the x600 range so the 10x00 was the only pressurised model up tot the 9800 range. Yes surprisingly the 4x00 kept that gravitation feeding including the 4900 while the 38x0 has pressurised darts. Ons wondere about the logic.

Ernst, op de lei getypt.

Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by geo@...

Paul and Ernst, thank you for your detailed responses, that is already a great help!

Ernst, about filling the cartridges, any hint where I could find information on specific procedures? The word "pressurized" does make me a bit nervous. I am glad to hear that the valves seem little problem-prone though.

Gutenprint supports the 10000 pretty well actually. I have managed, by maximising black use though setting transition points, to minimise metamerism; minimise being a relative term here, obviously, but at least the prints now have one tint, changing with the light source, rather than several at once. Still, they're not nearly good enough for gallery work, which is why I am looking forward to installing the eboni set.

QTR has the 10000 listed, but as I am not really up to speed yet about how it works (there's no profiles included), I haven't been able to do anything with it yet.

As I understand it, I should be fine with a "standard" driver (Gutenprint) for the time being, using Paul's suggested 100-30-18-9-6-2% setup. Gutenprint allows pushing the faders around as you please, even using ICCs. So I will look into that and see if I can figure it out!

Btw, my 10000CF stood idle for several years in storage at the institute I got it from. Two deep cleaning cycles got it back to printing a gap-free nozzle check, to everyone's amazement, and my joy.


Paul, do you find the idea of exchanging eboni C and LC for similar dilutions of Vivera black makes sense? I kind of interpolated that idea from some of your suggestions for glossy/matte flexibility. The 10k only having six slots, and solely looking at matte prints, I thought this might be an option for tonal control.


Thanks again, G

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by Paul Roark

geo@... wrote:

... about filling the cartridges, any hint where I could find information on specific procedures?

I put my folder of materials I found on dealing with the backflow valves, with some help from Ernst, at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Refilling7800carts.zip .

...
QTR has the 10000 listed, ...


Good. QTR is easy once you learn it. There are materials that can lead you through the process easily when you're interested.

Paul, do you find the idea of exchanging eboni C and LC for similar dilutions of Vivera black makes sense? I kind of interpolated that idea from some of your suggestions for glossy/matte flexibility. The 10k only having six slots, and solely looking at matte prints, I thought this might be an option for tonal control.

Using HP grays or PK dilutions works well to make a print more neutral. I do that with my 7800, using Eb6 in most channels, but having 2 HP channels. With QTR you can profile the system as 2 separate monotone profiles and then use sliders to decide what percentages of each you want in the print. Later you can combine these easily into a single profile for easier re-linearization.

The question is really what print tone you want. I'm coming from a "western landscape" cool tone silver print background and tend to like my B&W's to look rather neutral. All carbon is warm, but Eb6 on select papers has a low paper base to maximum Lab B change that allows it to look neutral on the wall with appropriate mat board. (Try Alpharag Artcare Pearl White 8 ply -- roughly matches the tone of the highlights on the papers I like, stopping them from looking yellow.)

Nevertheless, I do find that the inclusion of some (30%) HP makes my clouds, snow and the like look a bit cooler. Whether it's worth the subtle difference to mess with the HP inks and lose the ability to market as "100% carbon pigment" (FWIW) is questionable, but I do appreciate the flexibility to do more neutral.

Note that if you want warmer than Eboni, you can use MIS 100% carbon LK and LLK as warm toners.
Paul

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by Paul Roark

Ernst,

... surprisingly the 4x00 kept that gravitation feeding ...


It's probably just cheaper -- no pump and simpler carts. The 4000 does appear to suffer some backflow. I suspect that was the source of lots of claims of clogs with the printer when it came out. The one I use never clogs, but if left for a few weeks without being turned on, I might have air in the head and line that gives a bad nozzle check.

Paul

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by mrjimbo2

Mark I don't think the 4900 is pressurized.. Look at the cart one port or two??
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4900 is pressure carts too


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kept that gravitation feeding including the 4900

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by Mark Savoia

Jimbo, two. One for the ink out and one for the pressure in. I use refillable carts and even when you take them out and pull the stopper to add more ink you can hear them depressurize out the fill hole. Pissst.

from page 184 Field Repair Guide
Note: The 4900 Ink System is pressurized. It will remain under pressure after the Printer is turned off. Failure to bleed off the Ink System Pressure will cause an ink spill, if the Ink System is opened. 


Mark
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Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by geo@...


Thanks for those files, that makes it seem manageable! Can't imagine how I would have figured that out by myself.



I am in fact looking for a neutral/cool tone, that's why I picked up on the suggestion of the HP inks.

I saw you mentioning indanthrone blue and was intrigued by the idea of having just two pigments at opposite sides of the spectrum. Any chance of that ever seeing the light of day in an ink or is it simply too complex to produce for the niche we occupy? Kremer in Germany sells an indanthrone pigment, but I guess it is both a different hue than the one you tested, and several steps too far removed from being part of an ink chemically.


/G


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... about filling the cartridges, any hint where I could find information on specific procedures?

I put my folder of materials I found on dealing with the backflow valves, with some help from Ernst, at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Refilling7800carts.zip .

...
QTR has the 10000 listed, ...


Good. QTR is easy once you learn it. There are materials that can lead you through the process easily when you're interested.

Paul, do you find the idea of exchanging eboni C and LC for similar dilutions of Vivera black makes sense? I kind of interpolated that idea from some of your suggestions for glossy/matte flexibility. The 10k only having six slots, and solely looking at matte prints, I thought this might be an option for tonal control.

Using HP grays or PK dilutions works well to make a print more neutral. I do that with my 7800, using Eb6 in most channels, but having 2 HP channels. With QTR you can profile the system as 2 separate monotone profiles and then use sliders to decide what percentages of each you want in the print. Later you can combine these easily into a single profile for easier re-linearization.

The question is really what print tone you want. I'm coming from a "western landscape" cool tone silver print background and tend to like my B&W's to look rather neutral. All carbon is warm, but Eb6 on select papers has a low paper base to maximum Lab B change that allows it to look neutral on the wall with appropriate mat board. (Try Alpharag Artcare Pearl White 8 ply -- roughly matches the tone of the highlights on the papers I like, stopping them from looking yellow.)

Nevertheless, I do find that the inclusion of some (30%) HP makes my clouds, snow and the like look a bit cooler. Whether it's worth the subtle difference to mess with the HP inks and lose the ability to market as "100% carbon pigment" (FWIW) is questionable, but I do appreciate the flexibility to do more neutral.

Note that if you want warmer than Eboni, you can use MIS 100% carbon LK and LLK as warm toners.
Paul

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by e.dinkla@...

Mark,

I received three near empty OEM 4900 carts, Photo Black, T6531, 200 ml etc. Took one apart. There is no pressurised chamber with an ink bag inside, no air inlet either. It surprised me as I had some 3880 carts that show the construction for pressurised ink feeding.

Paul, was there no written instruction with the images for refilling the 10000 carts? I did send the images and the text to John Dean many moons ago.

--
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http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by Paul Roark

geo@... wrote:
Thanks for those files, that makes it seem manageable!

I used the smallest jeweler's screwdriver I have to poke the cap of the inside of the valve. It seemed to do the job. I would think trying to feel for and get between the 4 small supports that show in the image of the valve would be the thing to do. The remnants are going to fall to the bottom of the cart immediately. So they'll never be a problem. If there is anything small enough to get through the valve, you'll end up sucking it out when you rinse the cart.


I am in fact looking for a neutral/cool tone, that's why I picked up on the suggestion of the HP inks.

You could kick the HP content up a notch by having 3 positions of them. That is, you could replace the Y Eb6 with a very dilute HP, though it's probably not necessary. Note that the OEM HP gray and light gray are cooler than the HP PK diluted with the generic base. (Use version C6B of the base.) Of course, diluting yourself is much cheaper. Dilute inks are very expensive water.

I saw you mentioning indanthrone blue and was intrigued by the idea of having just two pigments at opposite sides of the spectrum. Any chance of that ever seeing the light of day in an ink or is it simply too complex to produce for the niche we occupy?

The small companies that specialize in B&W are probably too small to invest in what is needed for the initial preparations of a pigment. Bob Zeiss, the founder of MIS and I talked about it, and he did not think he'd ever be able to do enough volume to justify the investment. As a practical matter, the HP PK and grays are so good, I would not bother with it.

Paul

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by Paul Roark

Ernst,

I think all I was able to get and find was in that folder. Even though the YouTube is verrrry slloooow, the info is there.

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Paul, was there no written instruction with the images for refilling the 10000 carts? I did send the images and the text to John Dean many moons ago.

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by Mark Savoia

The carts I am using have no bags in them either, but you can see in the ink bay where the pressure goes into the hole below the ink out hole, right at the bottom/back edge of the cart. So some form of pressure is being created someplace (I think the pressure pump, part of the capping station, is also a vacuum pump).


Mark
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> Mark,
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> I received three near empty OEM 4900 carts, Photo Black, T6531, 200 ml etc. Took one apart. There is no pressurised chamber with an ink bag inside, no air inlet either. It surprised me as I had some 3880 carts that show the construction for pressurised ink feeding.
> 
> Paul, was there no written instruction with the images for refilling the 10000 carts?  I did send the images and the text to John Dean many moons ago.
> 
> -- 
> Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-20 by mrjimbo2

Jeeze, thanks Mark.. I have to say I was totally of the impression that they weren't pressurized.. as are the previous versions.. Actually I've read that somewhere I'm pretty sure.. Anyway that is really good news.. Not having pressurized carts was really a huge short fall of the earlier models so it's good they dealt with that..
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Jimbo, two. One for the ink out and one for the pressure in. I use refillable carts and even when you take them out and pull the stopper to add more ink you can hear them depressurize out the fill hole. Pissst.


from page 184 Field Repair Guide
Note: The 4900 Ink System is pressurized. It will remain under pressure after the Printer is turned off. Failure to bleed off the Ink System Pressure will cause an ink spill, if the Ink System is opened.


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Mark I don't think the 4900 is pressurized.. Look at the cart one port or two??
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-21 by mrjimbo2

Hey you guys.. I don't have a 4900 so I guess I should stay out of it.. Do have a 4800 and it for sure is not pressurized nor is the 4880..  or what ever they call it.. I honestly do remember reading on an Epson blog that the 4900 was not pressurized but if they dealt with that .. well.... kool.. 

Ok moving on the 10k.. John Dean posted a great set of instructions including pics on how to refill the 10k carts.. ( By the way he's my hero.. we both ate shit getting this stuff to work)  I can't find it so if anyone still has it lets get it back up there. I know it's an older printer but it really worked well.. A plus to the 10k was that when you turned it on it worked ..So you didn't have to fool around un plugging anything... only 6 shades but honestly very workable.. The carts are unique for the 10k. no other printer takes them.. Jon took this on and we had to buy a fancy Rip for it..big bucks.. It worked well but spendy.. I do remember that I think QTR was supporting the printer on a version.. I say that as we were having some slot assignment issues and Jon's support person had me download an iteration of it so we could resolve an issue.. Respectfully .. the ole 10k may not measure up to many here for color work but quite frankly it was awesome for B&W work.. no kidden.. It's best attribute was that it was like a Timex watch.. It just kept ticken.. I still have one in operation here.. and it looking like it gong to outlast me..

jimbo
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  Mark,



  I received three near empty OEM 4900 carts, Photo Black, T6531, 200 ml etc. Took one apart. There is no pressurised chamber with an ink bag inside, no air inlet either. It surprised me as I had some 3880 carts that show the construction for pressurised ink feeding.


  Paul, was there no written instruction with the images for refilling the 10000 carts?  I did send the images and the text to John Dean many moons ago.


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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-06-21 by e.dinkla@...

Mark,

Disassembled another 4900 cart. There is just one connector to let the ink out. No pressure chamber, no extra air bag around the ink pouch. The ink bag flattens when ink is taken out and the near empty one I have is quite flat so no pressure is build in the ink bag itself either.

It got the ink flow sensor that connects with two steel springs to the cart chip that connects to the printer electronics like the 11880 got first and the 9900 later. Might give the same error with a new cart when there is a small air bubble on the sensor. Of course the 11880 and 9900 etc have an air pressure chamber.
If chip resetters exist for the 4900 carts I would refill them from a tip on the bag itself. The sensor in the ink connector is making things worse to get a backflow valve out, ink path in the connector no longer straight either. Drilling a small hole at an angle along the sensor and filling the hole at the outside might be possible but will not be easy.

If pressurised I think the 4900 has an ink pump internally.

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Re: Setting up an Epson 10000CF for eb6 printing?

2014-07-02 by deanwork2003@...

I used the 10k for Cones K6 neutral inks for several years. It was the least clogging and easiest to use Epson printer I ever set up for monochrome work. I used Ernst's method of refilling the original Epson carts. Never had a problem of any kind. There were some third party refillable 10K carts that came out later and might still be around. The print head eventually went bad because I had done 10 years worth of work that machine and it just finally wore out. But never a problem with the inks going through it or linearizing it for high quality work, up to 40x60 in size.

My method was to use Studio Print which gave very sharp and very smooth results. Roy did have a work around for QTR that worked and I was able to make that work also. I believe he was basing it on the Epson 9500 driver. I just can't remember. You could ask him through the QTR yahoo forum. But it was supported.

I bet Ebony 6 would work well in that printer. With what I was doing with it I never had to even do a nozzle check. It was always totally clear as long as my head lasted.

I miss that old printer, and probably should have replaced the head in it myself and kept it. But I ended up giving it and two 9600s away for free when I upgraded.

John

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