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[Digital BW] Cone inks. = Sundance

2002-03-29 by jobfoto

Hi folks,

At:
http://www.piezography.com/bwtimeline.html

you can read:

2000 - Piezography™BW.
ConeTech releases Piezography™BW software and inks for 
EPSON printers as an inexpensive desktop system, 
PiezographyBW is an optical quality monochromatic system. In 
sharp contrast to $123,000 IRIS 3047 printers, Piezography™
BW works with $119 and higher EPSON printers. The 
Photoshop plug-in software allows for direct use from the most 
popular image editing software. A matched inks and software 
system developed by Gary Rogers R9/Sundance companies.

So...no mysteries about the provenance of there inks as far as I 
can see...

Best regards,

Jo Brunenberg
http://www.jobrunenberg.com

Re: [Digital BW] Cone inks. = Sundance

2002-03-29 by Martin Wesley

Hi Jo,

Someone correct me if I am wrong. I haven't seen that page before and I
suspect that it is fairly recent. So the mystery is gone, but within the
last year on the Piezo list they were posting that they were unwilling to
name the source of their inks.

Martin
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----- Original Message -----
From: "jobfoto" <jobnl@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:31 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Cone inks. = Sundance


Hi folks,

At:
http://www.piezography.com/bwtimeline.html

you can read:

2000 - PiezographyTBW.
ConeTech releases PiezographyTBW software and inks for
EPSON printers as an inexpensive desktop system,
PiezographyBW is an optical quality monochromatic system. In
sharp contrast to $123,000 IRIS 3047 printers, PiezographyT
BW works with $119 and higher EPSON printers. The
Photoshop plug-in software allows for direct use from the most
popular image editing software. A matched inks and software
system developed by Gary Rogers R9/Sundance companies.

So...no mysteries about the provenance of there inks as far as I
can see...

Best regards,

Jo Brunenberg
http://www.jobrunenberg.com





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Re: [Digital BW] Cone inks. = Sundance

2002-03-29 by Andrew Eschbacher

So they have gone public, big deal.  If you want to know why, ask them.

Drew



At 12:53 PM 3/29/02, you wrote:
>Hi Jo,
>
>Someone correct me if I am wrong. I haven't seen that page before and I
>suspect that it is fairly recent. So the mystery is gone, but within the
>last year on the Piezo list they were posting that they were unwilling to
>name the source of their inks.
>
>Martin
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "jobfoto" <jobnl@...>
>To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:31 AM
>Subject: [Digital BW] Cone inks. = Sundance
>
>
>Hi folks,
>
>At:
>http://www.piezography.com/bwtimeline.html
>
>you can read:
>
>2000 - PiezographyTBW.
>ConeTech releases PiezographyTBW software and inks for
>EPSON printers as an inexpensive desktop system,
>PiezographyBW is an optical quality monochromatic system. In
>sharp contrast to $123,000 IRIS 3047 printers, PiezographyT
>BW works with $119 and higher EPSON printers. The
>Photoshop plug-in software allows for direct use from the most
>popular image editing software. A matched inks and software
>system developed by Gary Rogers R9/Sundance companies.
>
>So...no mysteries about the provenance of there inks as far as I
>can see...
>
>Best regards,
>
>Jo Brunenberg
>http://www.jobrunenberg.com
>
>
>
>
>
>Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Digital BW] Cone inks. = Sundance

2002-03-29 by flyfishingusa2002

Maybe Sundance will market the inks under their own name at a price 
that competes with the MIS inks? InjetMall must be loosing a big 
share of the market.
You might also note that their new webpage says that the ConeTech 
Piezography drive is NOT compatible with PhotoShop 7.0. No doubt 
they will want another $50 for the upgrade when they get around to 
doing it. It's not as if they have not had pleanty of notice from 
Adobe, the beta versions have been with the developers a long time.

For my money, InjetMall sucks!

How about some clever software developer reverse engineering their 
software? This is a very common practice in the sofware industry.

Barry

 --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Andrew Eschbacher 
<photolists@s...> wrote:
> So they have gone public, big deal.  If you want to know why, ask 
them.
> 
> Drew
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:53 PM 3/29/02, you wrote:
> >Hi Jo,
> >
> >Someone correct me if I am wrong. I haven't seen that page before 
and I
> >suspect that it is fairly recent. So the mystery is gone, but 
within the
> >last year on the Piezo list they were posting that they were 
unwilling to
> >name the source of their inks.
> >
> >Martin
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "jobfoto" <jobnl@e...>
> >To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> >Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:31 AM
> >Subject: [Digital BW] Cone inks. = Sundance
> >
> >
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >At:
> >http://www.piezography.com/bwtimeline.html
> >
> >you can read:
> >
> >2000 - PiezographyTBW.
> >ConeTech releases PiezographyTBW software and inks for
> >EPSON printers as an inexpensive desktop system,
> >PiezographyBW is an optical quality monochromatic system. In
> >sharp contrast to $123,000 IRIS 3047 printers, PiezographyT
> >BW works with $119 and higher EPSON printers. The
> >Photoshop plug-in software allows for direct use from the most
> >popular image editing software. A matched inks and software
> >system developed by Gary Rogers R9/Sundance companies.
> >
> >So...no mysteries about the provenance of there inks as far as I
> >can see...
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Jo Brunenberg
> >http://www.jobrunenberg.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, 
Polls and
> >other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> >
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
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header.
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various
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> >
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> >
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Re: Cone inks. = Sundance

2002-03-29 by wolfkphotos

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "flyfishingusa2002" <
tflyfish@c...> wrote:
> Maybe Sundance will market the inks under their own name at a price 
> that competes with the MIS inks? InjetMall must be loosing a big 
> share of the market.
> You might also note that their new webpage says that the ConeTech 
> Piezography drive is NOT compatible with PhotoShop 7.0. No doubt 
> they will want another $50 for the upgrade when they get around to 
> doing it. It's not as if they have not had pleanty of notice from 
> Adobe, the beta versions have been with the developers a long time.
> 
> For my money, InjetMall sucks!
> 
> How about some clever software developer reverse engineering their 
> software? This is a very common practice in the sofware industry.
> 
> Barry

I've been working with the beta version of photoshop 7 for a couple
of 
months using using the piezography plug-in with no problems at all.

Wolf Kutnahorsky

Re: Cone inks. = Sundance

2002-03-29 by flyfishingusa2002

Wolf
That's not what their web site says, which OS are you using? I am a 
XP user, I would very much like to order PS 7.0.

Barry
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "wolfkphotos" 
<wolfkutnahorskyphotos@r...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "flyfishingusa2002" <
> tflyfish@c...> wrote:
> > Maybe Sundance will market the inks under their own name at a 
price 
> > that competes with the MIS inks? InjetMall must be loosing a big 
> > share of the market.
> > You might also note that their new webpage says that the 
ConeTech 
> > Piezography drive is NOT compatible with PhotoShop 7.0. No doubt 
> > they will want another $50 for the upgrade when they get around 
to 
> > doing it. It's not as if they have not had pleanty of notice 
from 
> > Adobe, the beta versions have been with the developers a long 
time.
> > 
> > For my money, InjetMall sucks!
> > 
> > How about some clever software developer reverse engineering 
their 
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> > software? This is a very common practice in the sofware industry.
> > 
> > Barry
> 
> I've been working with the beta version of photoshop 7 for a couple
> of 
> months using using the piezography plug-in with no problems at all.
> 
> Wolf Kutnahorsky

Re: [Digital BW] Cone inks. = Sundance

2002-03-30 by Bob Obenland

> Hi Jo,
> 
> Someone correct me if I am wrong. I haven't seen that page before and I
> suspect that it is fairly recent. So the mystery is gone, but within the
> last year on the Piezo list they were posting that they were unwilling to
> name the source of their inks.
> 
> Martin


It's been there a while. Couple months anyway.

I noticed the R9 reference awhile ago.
There was an R9 RIP (driver) about 2-3 years ago
that Dan Culbertson (probably the original desktop
printer quad guy) used to try to enhance quad separations.

R9 seemed to disappear after PressReady came out.

Its possible / likely that the R9 driver is now Piezography.

It may even be that the R9 driver is PressReady.

R9 used to have a website. Disappeared without a trace.

Thanks
Bob

Re: [Digital BW] Cone inks. = Sundance

2002-03-30 by Michael Kravit

Bob,

R9 Corporation is based in Las Vegas. They developed the Piezography driver
for Cone. They were supposed to also develop the color Piezo for Cone but
from what I was told they had irreconcilable differences. The President of
R9 told me that they also developed the selenium color inks for Cone, but it
appears that for some reason they did not make it to the market.

Piezo 2 was to be licenced from Colorbyte's ImagePrint 4 RIP, but again it
turned out that Cone wanted an exclusive license agreement and Colorbyte did
not. Now Cone has dropped the Piezo 2 software announcement like a hot
potato. It will be interesting to see what happens, as runors have it that
he is now working on platinum colored inks. More vaporware perhaps, but I
hope not.

Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Obenland" <bobenland@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Cone inks. = Sundance


> > Hi Jo,
> >
> > Someone correct me if I am wrong. I haven't seen that page before and I
> > suspect that it is fairly recent. So the mystery is gone, but within the
> > last year on the Piezo list they were posting that they were unwilling
to
> > name the source of their inks.
> >
> > Martin
>
>
> It's been there a while. Couple months anyway.
>
> I noticed the R9 reference awhile ago.
> There was an R9 RIP (driver) about 2-3 years ago
> that Dan Culbertson (probably the original desktop
> printer quad guy) used to try to enhance quad separations.
>
> R9 seemed to disappear after PressReady came out.
>
> Its possible / likely that the R9 driver is now Piezography.
>
> It may even be that the R9 driver is PressReady.
>
> R9 used to have a website. Disappeared without a trace.
>
> Thanks
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>
> Please follow these basic guidelines:
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> - Include the address of your website, if you have one.
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> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames."
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