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2002-04-24 by Paul Roark
John, You wrote: >...I'm currently printing with the MIS-FS quad inkset >on an Epson 1160. ... but I would prefer a slightly cooler >look. Is there a way to cool the prints by adding a bit of >blue ink to one or more of the 4 standard gray inks? >I'm using a CIS with 4 oz. bottles. ... Yes, but it would be easier and better to just buy some FS-N and purge the old inks out of the system. Paul http://www.PaulRoark.com
2002-04-24 by J Brubaker
Paul - Yes, I could do that, but my bottles are still quite full, and I occasionally use the Piezography driver. I only want a little cooling, and never a warmer look. Which of the inks needs the blue added to it, or do they all? Thanks --- John.
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:03 PM To: DigitalB&WPrint Subject: [Digital BW] Cooling off the MIS-FS inks? John, You wrote: >...I'm currently printing with the MIS-FS quad inkset >on an Epson 1160. ... but I would prefer a slightly cooler >look. Is there a way to cool the prints by adding a bit of >blue ink to one or more of the 4 standard gray inks? >I'm using a CIS with 4 oz. bottles. ... Yes, but it would be easier and better to just buy some FS-N and purge the old inks out of the system. Paul http://www.PaulRoark.com
2002-04-24 by Robert Morrison
Paul, I remember you mentioning that the FS-N inks were designed to fade on shade...meaning that they did not cool or warm as the density decreased. Any chance that this could be done for the FS inks? Specifically, they would still be warm relative to the FS-N inks when you print them...but they would fade on shade? I was with a bunch of photographers today showing them the FS-N inks. I had Piezo ink prints with me as well. Everyone liked the tone of the Piezo inks (FS tone) better...but were concerned that they wouldn't like them as much if they warmed even more. Robert
2002-04-24 by Martin Wesley
John, Try cooling off your MIS-FS Standard inks by adding in some MIS-FS Neutral inks which are bluish. This way you will not have to worry about changing the density of the inks. I did 80/20 and 50/50 FSN/FSS blends. The 80/20 was still on the cool side of neutral and the 50/50 was just on the warm side of neutral. You might want to try a 25/75 blend but I suggest you load this into cartridges for trial runs before you commit to a whole CIS full. Wedges of these blends I tried are in the Files section of the group homepage in folder: Files > Ink Sets, reviews and techniques > MIS FS Martin Wesley http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
----- Original Message ----- From: J Brubaker To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Cooling off the MIS-FS inks? Paul - Yes, I could do that, but my bottles are still quite full, and I occasionally use the Piezography driver. I only want a little cooling, and never a warmer look. Which of the inks needs the blue added to it, or do they all? Thanks --- John. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:03 PM To: DigitalB&WPrint Subject: [Digital BW] Cooling off the MIS-FS inks? John, You wrote: >...I'm currently printing with the MIS-FS quad inkset >on an Epson 1160. ... but I would prefer a slightly cooler >look. Is there a way to cool the prints by adding a bit of >blue ink to one or more of the 4 standard gray inks? >I'm using a CIS with 4 oz. bottles. ... Yes, but it would be easier and better to just buy some FS-N and purge the old inks out of the system. Paul http://www.PaulRoark.com Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2002-04-24 by Robert Morrison
Thanks, Martin. What's your subjective impression of these blends? The gray wedges are most helpful...thanks for that...can you compare to traditional photographic processes...paper? It would be interesting to see fades on these blends. I'm assuming that a 50/50 FS/FS-N blend would warm half as much as the FS alone...but it would be nice to see this in Paul's fade test. Robert
On 4/23/02 8:30 PM, "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...> wrote: > John, > > Try cooling off your MIS-FS Standard inks by adding in some MIS-FS Neutral > inks which are bluish. This way you will not have to worry about changing the > density of the inks. > > I did 80/20 and 50/50 FSN/FSS blends. The 80/20 was still on the cool side of > neutral and the 50/50 was just on the warm side of neutral. You might want to > try a 25/75 blend but I suggest you load this into cartridges for trial runs > before you commit to a whole CIS full. > > Wedges of these blends I tried are in the Files section of the group homepage > in folder: > > Files > Ink Sets, reviews and techniques > MIS FS > > Martin Wesley > http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: J Brubaker > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:37 PM > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Cooling off the MIS-FS inks? > > > Paul - Yes, I could do that, but my bottles are still quite full, and I > occasionally use the Piezography driver. I only want a little cooling, > and never a warmer look. Which of the inks needs the blue added to it, > or do they all? Thanks --- John. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:03 PM > To: DigitalB&WPrint > Subject: [Digital BW] Cooling off the MIS-FS inks? > > John, > > You wrote: > >> ...I'm currently printing with the MIS-FS quad inkset >> on an Epson 1160. ... but I would prefer a slightly cooler >> look. Is there a way to cool the prints by adding a bit of >> blue ink to one or more of the 4 standard gray inks? >> I'm using a CIS with 4 oz. bottles. ... > > Yes, but it would be easier and better to just buy some FS-N and purge > the > old inks out of the system. > > Paul > http://www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >