Digital BW, The Print

Has anyone tried the MIS Gloss Coat?

From their website:

"MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating which can be
applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to eliminate dull spots and to
seal the surface to make the print more durable. Requires a second printer
to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample bottle, virgin empty cartridge not
included. 

$5.00"

Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that matter how
does one do a nozzle check???

Todd

Todd wrote:

> "MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating which can be
snip:
> Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that matter how
> does one do a nozzle check???

Todd...

Didn't someone mention a 'wouldn't it be cool' scenario regarding that very
same thing a while back... coating paper with a desktop printer (it was
probably Martin)... how would you keep the heads from drying with this stuff
in them, with a spray can you can clear the nozzle after use so it doesn't
dry.
Carolyn

Todd,
I inquired about this product about a month ago.  They are having 
problems with it (exactly what I don't know), but for now, from what 
I understand they are no longer selling it... it does sound like a 
terrific idea though... When I have the time and resources, I would 
like to follow up on it, perhaps picking the brains of MIS.  It does 
sound to me potentially the best way of consistently applying a top 
coat to a print....



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner <tflash@e...> 
wrote:
> Has anyone tried the MIS Gloss Coat?
> 
> From their website:
> 
> "MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating 
which can be
> applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to eliminate dull 
spots and to
> seal the surface to make the print more durable. Requires a second 
printer
> to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample bottle, virgin empty cartridge not
> included. 
> 
> $5.00"
> 
> Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that 
matter how

> does one do a nozzle check???
> 
> Todd
>

Why doesn't anyone laminate their prints? I've asked about it 
before and got no reply. Do you have an opinion on it? Has anyone 
tried it? It's done a lot with outdoor color inkjet-wide format and 
such but I see nothing about it here. Can anyone tell me why? Does it 
suck, not work, look lame, cheap? Anyone? Anyone?


Thanks, I feel so much better after a good rant.
Jeff 

> Todd,
> I inquired about this product about a month ago.  They are having 
> problems with it (exactly what I don't know), but for now, from 
what 
> I understand they are no longer selling it... it does sound like a 
> terrific idea though... When I have the time and resources, I would 
> like to follow up on it, perhaps picking the brains of MIS.  It 
does 
> sound to me potentially the best way of consistently applying a top 
> coat to a print....
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner 
<tflash@e...> 
> wrote:
> > Has anyone tried the MIS Gloss Coat?
> > 
> > From their website:
> > 
> > "MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating 
> which can be
> > applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to eliminate dull 
> spots and to
> > seal the surface to make the print more durable. Requires a 
second 
> printer
> > to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample bottle, virgin empty cartridge 
not

> > included. 
> > 
> > $5.00"
> > 
> > Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that 
> matter how
> > does one do a nozzle check???
> > 
> > Todd
> >

> Why doesn't anyone laminate their prints? I've asked about it
> before and got no reply.
Didn't think you were serious.

> Do you have an opinion on it? Has anyone
> tried it? It's done a lot with outdoor color inkjet-wide format and
> such but I see nothing about it here. Can anyone tell me why? Does it
> suck, not work, look lame, cheap? Anyone? Anyone?

all of the above...

I laminate my commercial covers when they are being used under certain
conditions at the request of my clients only. Lamination may have come a
long way but it is still a plastic wrap... good for commercial and
educational purposes only in my opinion... not photogaphic fine art.

> Thanks, I feel so much better after a good rant.
I prefer wine.

Carolyn

I haven't tried it, but from what I've seen I think it is just not the "fine
art" look many of us go for here. It's plasticky.

Todd

> Why doesn't anyone laminate their prints? I've asked about it
> before and got no reply. Do you have an opinion on it? Has anyone
> tried it? It's done a lot with outdoor color inkjet-wide format and
> such but I see nothing about it here. Can anyone tell me why? Does it
> suck, not work, look lame, cheap? Anyone? Anyone?
> 
> 
> Thanks, I feel so much better after a good rant.
> Jeff 
> 
>> Todd,
>> I inquired about this product about a month ago.  They are having
>> problems with it (exactly what I don't know), but for now, from
> what 
>> I understand they are no longer selling it... it does sound like a
>> terrific idea though... When I have the time and resources, I would
>> like to follow up on it, perhaps picking the brains of MIS.  It
> does 
>> sound to me potentially the best way of consistently applying a top
>> coat to a print....
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner
> <tflash@e...> 
>> wrote:
>>> Has anyone tried the MIS Gloss Coat?
>>> 
>>> From their website:
>>> 
>>> "MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating
>> which can be
>>> applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to eliminate dull
>> spots and to
>>> seal the surface to make the print more durable. Requires a
> second 
>> printer
>>> to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample bottle, virgin empty cartridge
> not
>>> included. 
>>> 
>>> $5.00"
>>> 
>>> Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that
>> matter how
>>> does one do a nozzle check???
>>> 
>>> Todd
>>>  
> 
> 
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Thanks. Plasticky, I like that. Plasticky, yeah, cool. 

> I haven't tried it, but from what I've seen I think it is just not 
the "fine
> art" look many of us go for here. It's plasticky.
> 
> Todd
> 
> > Why doesn't anyone laminate their prints? I've asked about it
> > before and got no reply. Do you have an opinion on it? Has anyone
> > tried it? It's done a lot with outdoor color inkjet-wide format 
and
> > such but I see nothing about it here. Can anyone tell me why? 
Does it
> > suck, not work, look lame, cheap? Anyone? Anyone?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks, I feel so much better after a good rant.
> > Jeff 
> > 
> >> Todd,
> >> I inquired about this product about a month ago.  They are having
> >> problems with it (exactly what I don't know), but for now, from
> > what 
> >> I understand they are no longer selling it... it does sound like 
a
> >> terrific idea though... When I have the time and resources, I 
would
> >> like to follow up on it, perhaps picking the brains of MIS.  It
> > does 
> >> sound to me potentially the best way of consistently applying a 
top
> >> coat to a print....
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner
> > <tflash@e...> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> Has anyone tried the MIS Gloss Coat?
> >>> 
> >>> From their website:
> >>> 
> >>> "MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating
> >> which can be
> >>> applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to eliminate dull
> >> spots and to
> >>> seal the surface to make the print more durable. Requires a
> > second 
> >> printer
> >>> to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample bottle, virgin empty cartridge
> > not
> >>> included. 
> >>> 
> >>> $5.00"
> >>> 
> >>> Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that
> >> matter how
> >>> does one do a nozzle check???
> >>> 
> >>> Todd
> >>>  
> > 
> > 
> > 
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is this the same lamination process that BlockBuster does on their member
cards? -- (or am i confused)

i'd guess that very few people would want to do that to fine-art ..

-- ricardo

----- Original Message -----
From: "iwasnvrhere" <iwasnvrhere@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:54 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Gloss Coat


  Why doesn't anyone laminate their prints? I've asked about it
before and got no reply. Do you have an opinion on it? Has anyone
tried it? It's done a lot with outdoor color inkjet-wide format and
such but I see nothing about it here. Can anyone tell me why? Does it
suck, not work, look lame, cheap? Anyone? Anyone?


Thanks, I feel so much better after a good rant.
Jeff

> Todd,
> I inquired about this product about a month ago.  They are having
> problems with it (exactly what I don't know), but for now, from
what
> I understand they are no longer selling it... it does sound like a
> terrific idea though... When I have the time and resources, I would
> like to follow up on it, perhaps picking the brains of MIS.  It
does
> sound to me potentially the best way of consistently applying a top
> coat to a print....
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner
<tflash@e...>
> wrote:
> > Has anyone tried the MIS Gloss Coat?
> >
> > From their website:
> >
> > "MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating
> which can be
> > applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to eliminate dull
> spots and to
> > seal the surface to make the print more durable. Requires a
second
> printer
> > to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample bottle, virgin empty cartridge
not
> > included.
> >
> > $5.00"
> >
> > Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that
> matter how
> > does one do a nozzle check???
> >
> > Todd
> >



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Todd and others,

Try using Brightcube Semi-Matte paper with either the FS or FS-N inks.  I'm
assuming it would also work with VM.  The paper is a microporus surface on a
"silver-halide" paper.  I'm trying to get details about the paper
stock...its not RC...but it is not acid free and does have brighteners (like
most traditional photo papers).  I get beautiful prints with the Piezo
Driver on Epson Photo Paper setting.  The FS is warm...and the FS-N is
neutral.  Uncoated dmax is 1.9.  I simply spray with four quick (30 sec
apart) lite coats of Krylon UV resistant spray.  I have no problem getting
even coats that you don't see (unlike the old Kodak Ultima...which was a
bear to coat).  The surface is pearl and stays that way.  Coated dmax bumps
up to 2.05.  The coated print is completely smear resistant.

I think this is absolutely the easiest way to get rich looking prints.  I'm
seriously considering this for my portfolio.

Robert


On 4/24/02 2:21 PM, "Ricardo Lagos" <ricardo@...> wrote:

> is this the same lamination process that BlockBuster does on their member
> cards? -- (or am i confused)
> 
> i'd guess that very few people would want to do that to fine-art ..
> 
> -- ricardo
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "iwasnvrhere" <iwasnvrhere@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:54 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Gloss Coat
> 
> 
> Why doesn't anyone laminate their prints? I've asked about it
> before and got no reply. Do you have an opinion on it? Has anyone
> tried it? It's done a lot with outdoor color inkjet-wide format and
> such but I see nothing about it here. Can anyone tell me why? Does it
> suck, not work, look lame, cheap? Anyone? Anyone?
> 
> 
> Thanks, I feel so much better after a good rant.
> Jeff
> 
>> Todd,
>> I inquired about this product about a month ago.  They are having
>> problems with it (exactly what I don't know), but for now, from
> what
>> I understand they are no longer selling it... it does sound like a
>> terrific idea though... When I have the time and resources, I would
>> like to follow up on it, perhaps picking the brains of MIS.  It
> does
>> sound to me potentially the best way of consistently applying a top
>> coat to a print....
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner
> <tflash@e...>
>> wrote:
>>> Has anyone tried the MIS Gloss Coat?
>>> 
>>> From their website:
>>> 
>>> "MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating
>> which can be
>>> applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to eliminate dull
>> spots and to
>>> seal the surface to make the print more durable. Requires a
> second
>> printer
>>> to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample bottle, virgin empty cartridge
> not
>>> included.
>>> 
>>> $5.00"
>>> 
>>> Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that
>> matter how
>>> does one do a nozzle check???
>>> 
>>> Todd
>>> 
> 
> 
> 
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----------------------
Robert Morrison
rmorrison@...

310-397-2704

4131 Bledsoe Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90066

Well ... i do not laminate, but on occasion for shows i have the prints (usually large format ones) mounted behind 1/4 or 1/8 inch plexiglas depending on the size. these get framed and require no further handling for the show which is extremely practical. supposedly (according to the service provider) it also increases the print durability. but i would not do the thin-layer lamination just on prints ... i kind of do not like the results

regards

veniamin kostitsin
http://www.digitalimage.at/

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ricardo Lagos 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Gloss Coat


  is this the same lamination process that BlockBuster does on their member
  cards? -- (or am i confused)

  i'd guess that very few people would want to do that to fine-art ..

  -- ricardo

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "iwasnvrhere" <iwasnvrhere@...>
  To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:54 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Gloss Coat


    Why doesn't anyone laminate their prints? I've asked about it
  before and got no reply. Do you have an opinion on it? Has anyone
  tried it? It's done a lot with outdoor color inkjet-wide format and
  such but I see nothing about it here. Can anyone tell me why? Does it
  suck, not work, look lame, cheap? Anyone? Anyone?


  Thanks, I feel so much better after a good rant.
  Jeff

  > Todd,
  > I inquired about this product about a month ago.  They are having
  > problems with it (exactly what I don't know), but for now, from
  what
  > I understand they are no longer selling it... it does sound like a
  > terrific idea though... When I have the time and resources, I would
  > like to follow up on it, perhaps picking the brains of MIS.  It
  does
  > sound to me potentially the best way of consistently applying a top
  > coat to a print....
  >
  >
  >
  > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner
  <tflash@e...>
  > wrote:
  > > Has anyone tried the MIS Gloss Coat?
  > >
  > > From their website:
  > >
  > > "MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating
  > which can be
  > > applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to eliminate dull
  > spots and to
  > > seal the surface to make the print more durable. Requires a
  second
  > printer
  > > to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample bottle, virgin empty cartridge
  not
  > > included.
  > >
  > > $5.00"
  > >
  > > Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that
  > matter how
  > > does one do a nozzle check???
  > >
  > > Todd
  > >



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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

And no Plasticky feel I'll bet. Do you wait any amount of time for 
the print to dry or you coat immediately?

Jeff

> Todd and others,
> 
> Try using Brightcube Semi-Matte paper with either the FS or FS-N 
inks.  I'm
> assuming it would also work with VM.  The paper is a microporus 
surface on a
> "silver-halide" paper.  I'm trying to get details about the paper
> stock...its not RC...but it is not acid free and does have 
brighteners (like
> most traditional photo papers).  I get beautiful prints with the 
Piezo
> Driver on Epson Photo Paper setting.  The FS is warm...and the FS-N 
is
> neutral.  Uncoated dmax is 1.9.  I simply spray with four quick (30 
sec
> apart) lite coats of Krylon UV resistant spray.  I have no problem 
getting
> even coats that you don't see (unlike the old Kodak Ultima...which 
was a
> bear to coat).  The surface is pearl and stays that way.  Coated 
dmax bumps
> up to 2.05.  The coated print is completely smear resistant.
> 
> I think this is absolutely the easiest way to get rich looking 
prints.  I'm
> seriously considering this for my portfolio.
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> On 4/24/02 2:21 PM, "Ricardo Lagos" <ricardo@s...> wrote:
> 
> > is this the same lamination process that BlockBuster does on 
their member
> > cards? -- (or am i confused)
> > 
> > i'd guess that very few people would want to do that to fine-
art ..
> > 
> > -- ricardo
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "iwasnvrhere" <iwasnvrhere@y...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:54 PM
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Gloss Coat
> > 
> > 
> > Why doesn't anyone laminate their prints? I've asked about it
> > before and got no reply. Do you have an opinion on it? Has anyone
> > tried it? It's done a lot with outdoor color inkjet-wide format 
and
> > such but I see nothing about it here. Can anyone tell me why? 
Does it
> > suck, not work, look lame, cheap? Anyone? Anyone?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks, I feel so much better after a good rant.
> > Jeff
> > 
> >> Todd,
> >> I inquired about this product about a month ago.  They are having
> >> problems with it (exactly what I don't know), but for now, from
> > what
> >> I understand they are no longer selling it... it does sound like 
a
> >> terrific idea though... When I have the time and resources, I 
would
> >> like to follow up on it, perhaps picking the brains of MIS.  It
> > does
> >> sound to me potentially the best way of consistently applying a 
top
> >> coat to a print....
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner
> > <tflash@e...>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Has anyone tried the MIS Gloss Coat?
> >>> 
> >>> From their website:
> >>> 
> >>> "MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating
> >> which can be
> >>> applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to eliminate dull
> >> spots and to
> >>> seal the surface to make the print more durable. Requires a
> > second
> >> printer
> >>> to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample bottle, virgin empty cartridge
> > not
> >>> included.
> >>> 
> >>> $5.00"
> >>> 
> >>> Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that
> >> matter how
> >>> does one do a nozzle check???
> >>> 
> >>> Todd
> >>> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, 
Polls and
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> 
> ----------------------
> Robert Morrison
> rmorrison@p...
> 
> 310-397-2704
> 
> 4131 Bledsoe Ave.
> Los Angeles, CA 90066

Is this a new paper? I've only seen their satine velvet and eclipse satine

Jerry

"Robert G. Morrison" wrote:

> Todd and others,
>
> Try using Brightcube Semi-Matte paper with either the FS or FS-N inks.  I'm
> assuming it would also work with VM.  The paper is a microporus surface on a
> "silver-halide" paper.  I'm trying to get details about the paper
> stock...its not RC...but it is not acid free and does have brighteners

Jeff wrote:

Why doesn't anyone laminate their prints? I've asked about it 
before and got no reply. Do you have an opinion on it? Has anyone 
tried it? 

Jeff, check out the recent (ongoing?) discussion on the Epson 9000 list.

Tom Keesling
Intelligent Design, Inc.

Relatively new.  It has the same coating as ProPhoto Silk, a lightweight
paper that they have sold for about 6 monthes.  The Semi-Matte is much more
substantial.  Very nice...well worth a look.

Robert

On 4/24/02 3:25 PM, "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...> wrote:

> Is this a new paper? I've only seen their satine velvet and eclipse satine
> 
> Jerry
> 
> "Robert G. Morrison" wrote:
> 
>> Todd and others,
>> 
>> Try using Brightcube Semi-Matte paper with either the FS or FS-N inks.  I'm
>> assuming it would also work with VM.  The paper is a microporus surface on a
>> "silver-halide" paper.  I'm trying to get details about the paper
>> stock...its not RC...but it is not acid free and does have brighteners
> 
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Robert Morrison
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310-397-2704

4131 Bledsoe Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90066

They look like silver prints to me.  I let them dry overnight...being
careful not to rub the surface.

Robert

On 4/24/02 3:10 PM, "iwasnvrhere" <iwasnvrhere@...> wrote:

>  And no Plasticky feel I'll bet. Do you wait any amount of time for
> the print to dry or you coat immediately?
> 
> Jeff
> 
>> Todd and others,
>> 
>> Try using Brightcube Semi-Matte paper with either the FS or FS-N
> inks.  I'm
>> assuming it would also work with VM.  The paper is a microporus
> surface on a
>> "silver-halide" paper.  I'm trying to get details about the paper
>> stock...its not RC...but it is not acid free and does have
> brighteners (like
>> most traditional photo papers).  I get beautiful prints with the
> Piezo
>> Driver on Epson Photo Paper setting.  The FS is warm...and the FS-N
> is
>> neutral.  Uncoated dmax is 1.9.  I simply spray with four quick (30
> sec
>> apart) lite coats of Krylon UV resistant spray.  I have no problem
> getting
>> even coats that you don't see (unlike the old Kodak Ultima...which
> was a
>> bear to coat).  The surface is pearl and stays that way.  Coated
> dmax bumps
>> up to 2.05.  The coated print is completely smear resistant.
>> 
>> I think this is absolutely the easiest way to get rich looking
> prints.  I'm
>> seriously considering this for my portfolio.
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/24/02 2:21 PM, "Ricardo Lagos" <ricardo@s...> wrote:
>> 
>>> is this the same lamination process that BlockBuster does on
> their member
>>> cards? -- (or am i confused)
>>> 
>>> i'd guess that very few people would want to do that to fine-
> art ..
>>> 
>>> -- ricardo
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "iwasnvrhere" <iwasnvrhere@y...>
>>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:54 PM
>>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Gloss Coat
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why doesn't anyone laminate their prints? I've asked about it
>>> before and got no reply. Do you have an opinion on it? Has anyone
>>> tried it? It's done a lot with outdoor color inkjet-wide format
> and
>>> such but I see nothing about it here. Can anyone tell me why?
> Does it
>>> suck, not work, look lame, cheap? Anyone? Anyone?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, I feel so much better after a good rant.
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>>> Todd,
>>>> I inquired about this product about a month ago.  They are having
>>>> problems with it (exactly what I don't know), but for now, from
>>> what
>>>> I understand they are no longer selling it... it does sound like
> a
>>>> terrific idea though... When I have the time and resources, I
> would
>>>> like to follow up on it, perhaps picking the brains of MIS.  It
>>> does
>>>> sound to me potentially the best way of consistently applying a
> top
>>>> coat to a print....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner
>>> <tflash@e...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Has anyone tried the MIS Gloss Coat?
>>>>> 
>>>>> From their website:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating
>>>> which can be
>>>>> applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to eliminate dull
>>>> spots and to
>>>>> seal the surface to make the print more durable. Requires a
>>> second
>>>> printer
>>>>> to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample bottle, virgin empty cartridge
>>> not
>>>>> included.
>>>>> 
>>>>> $5.00"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that
>>>> matter how
>>>>> does one do a nozzle check???
>>>>> 
>>>>> Todd
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> ----------------------
>> Robert Morrison
>> rmorrison@p...
>> 
>> 310-397-2704
>> 
>> 4131 Bledsoe Ave.
>> Los Angeles, CA 90066
> 
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Robert Morrison
rmorrison@...

310-397-2704

4131 Bledsoe Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90066

Is the a european distributor for this stuff? Has itother names?

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert G. Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Gloss Coat--Easy Coating on Pearl Paper


> They look like silver prints to me.  I let them dry overnight...being
> careful not to rub the surface.
>
> Robert
>
> On 4/24/02 3:10 PM, "iwasnvrhere" <iwasnvrhere@...> wrote:
>
> >  And no Plasticky feel I'll bet. Do you wait any amount of time for
> > the print to dry or you coat immediately?
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >> Todd and others,
> >>
> >> Try using Brightcube Semi-Matte paper with either the FS or FS-N
> > inks.  I'm
> >> assuming it would also work with VM.  The paper is a microporus
> > surface on a
> >> "silver-halide" paper.  I'm trying to get details about the paper
> >> stock...its not RC...but it is not acid free and does have
> > brighteners (like
> >> most traditional photo papers).  I get beautiful prints with the
> > Piezo
> >> Driver on Epson Photo Paper setting.  The FS is warm...and the FS-N
> > is
> >> neutral.  Uncoated dmax is 1.9.  I simply spray with four quick (30
> > sec
> >> apart) lite coats of Krylon UV resistant spray.  I have no problem
> > getting
> >> even coats that you don't see (unlike the old Kodak Ultima...which
> > was a
> >> bear to coat).  The surface is pearl and stays that way.  Coated
> > dmax bumps
> >> up to 2.05.  The coated print is completely smear resistant.
> >>
> >> I think this is absolutely the easiest way to get rich looking
> > prints.  I'm
> >> seriously considering this for my portfolio.
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/24/02 2:21 PM, "Ricardo Lagos" <ricardo@s...> wrote:
> >>
> >>> is this the same lamination process that BlockBuster does on
> > their member
> >>> cards? -- (or am i confused)
> >>>
> >>> i'd guess that very few people would want to do that to fine-
> > art ..
> >>>
> >>> -- ricardo
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "iwasnvrhere" <iwasnvrhere@y...>
> >>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:54 PM
> >>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Gloss Coat
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Why doesn't anyone laminate their prints? I've asked about it
> >>> before and got no reply. Do you have an opinion on it? Has anyone
> >>> tried it? It's done a lot with outdoor color inkjet-wide format
> > and
> >>> such but I see nothing about it here. Can anyone tell me why?
> > Does it
> >>> suck, not work, look lame, cheap? Anyone? Anyone?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, I feel so much better after a good rant.
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>>> Todd,
> >>>> I inquired about this product about a month ago.  They are having
> >>>> problems with it (exactly what I don't know), but for now, from
> >>> what
> >>>> I understand they are no longer selling it... it does sound like
> > a
> >>>> terrific idea though... When I have the time and resources, I
> > would
> >>>> like to follow up on it, perhaps picking the brains of MIS.  It
> >>> does
> >>>> sound to me potentially the best way of consistently applying a
> > top
> >>>> coat to a print....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner
> >>> <tflash@e...>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Has anyone tried the MIS Gloss Coat?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From their website:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating
> >>>> which can be
> >>>>> applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to eliminate dull
> >>>> spots and to
> >>>>> seal the surface to make the print more durable. Requires a
> >>> second
> >>>> printer
> >>>>> to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample bottle, virgin empty cartridge
> >>> not
> >>>>> included.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> $5.00"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sounds like a good idea but I wonder about clogs, and for that
> >>>> matter how
> >>>>> does one do a nozzle check???
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Todd
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks,
> > Polls and
> >>> other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >> Robert Morrison
> >> rmorrison@p...
> >>
> >> 310-397-2704
> >>
> >> 4131 Bledsoe Ave.
> >> Los Angeles, CA 90066
> >
> >
> >
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> 310-397-2704
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Has anyone had experience of 

<<MIS Gloss Coat Sample - Gloss Coat is a clear odorless coating 
which can be applied to a glossy archival pigmented print to 
eliminate dull spots and to seal the surface to make the print more 
durable. Requires a second printer to apply. Comes in a 2 oz sample 
bottle, virgin empty cartridge not included>>

from http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/accessory.html - 
I have an otherwise redundant Epson EX?

My apologies if this has been raised before, in which case a link 
would be appreciated.

Thanks,  

Colin