Digital BW, The Print

> But what I miss is the depht and contrast that the Lyson prints
> has.  - A glossy paper with some inks that shows deep blacks
> and prints well at both glossy and matte papers and shows no
> metamerisms..
>
> Is it possible at all to produce a digital print that beats the
> traditional silverbased print in every way?
>
> Anyone who has some experiences?
Bjorn, you are using a totally different system that is more akin to
platinum than to silver prints. I'm trying to find ways to produce a high
quality dig neg, and I've not found one sharpenough yet. So, I'm silver
printing those neghs that need it and dig printing those that look better on
inkjet.

Julian

Julian wrote on 24 April


>I'm trying to find ways to produce a high
> quality dig neg, and I've not found one sharpenough yet. So, I'm 
silver
> printing those neghs that need it and dig printing those that look 
better on
> inkjet.

And I thought it was just me not getting really sharp digital 
prints!  I fear my circa GBP10,000 investment in digital has been a 
waste, what with microbanding (about 8 bands per mm on the 1160s) 
that won't go away.

Surely not everyone out there takes pictures of blurred flowing water!

Colin
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas" 
<julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> 
> > But what I miss is the depht and contrast that the Lyson prints
> > has.  - A glossy paper with some inks that shows deep blacks
> > and prints well at both glossy and matte papers and shows no
> > metamerisms..
> >
> > Is it possible at all to produce a digital print that beats the
> > traditional silverbased print in every way?
> >
> > Anyone who has some experiences?
> Bjorn, you are using a totally different system that is more akin to
> platinum than to silver prints. I'm trying to find ways to produce 
a high
> quality dig neg, and I've not found one sharpenough yet. So, I'm 
silver
> printing those neghs that need it and dig printing those that look 
better on

> inkjet.
> 
> Julian

I've not seen a dig neg from an image setter, but I've had more emails from
folk who don't like them than those who do.
I think that inkjet are gret at what they do, but they are not replacements
for a silver print... yet/. I'm now just using both. But I'd love to be able
to apply my PS skills and get a silver print!

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "colingruk" <colin.conway@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: And I thought it was me - was [Digital BW] Lyson Quad Metamerim
problems


> Julian wrote on 24 April
>
>
> >I'm trying to find ways to produce a high
> > quality dig neg, and I've not found one sharpenough yet. So, I'm
> silver
> > printing those neghs that need it and dig printing those that look
> better on
> > inkjet.
>
> And I thought it was just me not getting really sharp digital
> prints!  I fear my circa GBP10,000 investment in digital has been a
> waste, what with microbanding (about 8 bands per mm on the 1160s)
> that won't go away.
>
> Surely not everyone out there takes pictures of blurred flowing water!
>
> Colin
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas"
> <julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> >
> > > But what I miss is the depht and contrast that the Lyson prints
> > > has.  - A glossy paper with some inks that shows deep blacks
> > > and prints well at both glossy and matte papers and shows no
> > > metamerisms..
> > >
> > > Is it possible at all to produce a digital print that beats the
> > > traditional silverbased print in every way?
> > >
> > > Anyone who has some experiences?
> > Bjorn, you are using a totally different system that is more akin to
> > platinum than to silver prints. I'm trying to find ways to produce
> a high
> > quality dig neg, and I've not found one sharpenough yet. So, I'm
> silver
> > printing those neghs that need it and dig printing those that look
> better on
> > inkjet.
> >
> > Julian
>
>
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Julian,
I have had some success at outputing B/W to LightJet prints. They 
beat the conventional silver prints in the sense that I can retouch 
them in PhotoShop (i shoot portraits) and those prints look very 
close to a silver one and certainly as neutral. I posted the workflow 
a few weeks ago and if you need info, feel free to contact me at 
Benoit@...
Benoit
Http://studiocharis.com