Digital BW, The Print

Has anyone printed on Bright Cube Semi Matt with the Piezo drivers 
and Piezo Ink? If so how did you like it and what driver did you use

Vinny

I've posted quit a bit on this recently...check the archives.  The best
profile is Epson Premium Photo Glossy.  You will need to spray the paper
24hr after you print it.  I suggest Krylon 1305 as the spray.  Check the
files section for my glossy paper screen file.  Semi-Matte has the same
coating as prophoto silk. This is one of the best luster finish papers for
use with Piezo or MIS quad inks.

Robert

On 5/3/02 4:26 PM, "vinyo88" <orlandovl@...> wrote:

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> 
> Has anyone printed on Bright Cube Semi Matt with the Piezo drivers
> and Piezo Ink? If so how did you like it and what driver did you use
> 
> Vinny
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I am curious Robert....

Spraying the print after 24 hours....

I take it this is to "coat" the print so that the pigment does not wipe off. 

What if you left the print to "cure" for a longer period?  Is the problem of smearing alleviated with some more time or is the pigment just sitting on the surface like a dust coating? 

What if the print was put behind glass and never touched?  Do you think the image would be "permanent" or would the surface somehow change (dusting off of the pigment)?

Sincerely curious, 

Steadman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert G. Morrison 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Bright Cube & Piezo ink


  I've posted quit a bit on this recently...check the archives.  The best
  profile is Epson Premium Photo Glossy.  You will need to spray the paper
  24hr after you print it.  I suggest Krylon 1305 as the spray.  Check the
  files section for my glossy paper screen file.  Semi-Matte has the same
  coating as prophoto silk. This is one of the best luster finish papers for
  use with Piezo or MIS quad inks.

  Robert

  On 5/3/02 4:26 PM, "vinyo88" <orlandovl@...> wrote:

  > 
  > 
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  > 
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Steadman, I've tried this! If you put the print behind glass without
spraying you miss out on the huge dmax increase.
Well worth persevering with. My main problem (a part from buying crapstuff
this time, is finding a dust free space to let the prints dry.
I was in a gallery yesterday, theowner was saying 'no' to inkjet but a
customer bought two glossy prints - full price - anyway. Despite knowing I'd
made the sales, the owner still said 'come back with silver portfolio'.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Bright Cube & Piezo ink


> I am curious Robert....
>
> Spraying the print after 24 hours....
>
> I take it this is to "coat" the print so that the pigment does not wipe
off.
>
> What if you left the print to "cure" for a longer period?  Is the problem
of smearing alleviated with some more time or is the pigment just sitting on
the surface like a dust coating?
>
> What if the print was put behind glass and never touched?  Do you think
the image would be "permanent" or would the surface somehow change (dusting
off of the pigment)?
>
> Sincerely curious,
>
> Steadman
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Robert G. Morrison
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:26 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Bright Cube & Piezo ink
>
>
>   I've posted quit a bit on this recently...check the archives.  The best
>   profile is Epson Premium Photo Glossy.  You will need to spray the paper
>   24hr after you print it.  I suggest Krylon 1305 as the spray.  Check the
>   files section for my glossy paper screen file.  Semi-Matte has the same
>   coating as prophoto silk. This is one of the best luster finish papers
for
>   use with Piezo or MIS quad inks.
>
>   Robert
>
>   On 5/3/02 4:26 PM, "vinyo88" <orlandovl@...> wrote:
>
>   >
>   >
>   > Has anyone printed on Bright Cube Semi Matt with the Piezo drivers
>   > and Piezo Ink? If so how did you like it and what driver did you use
>   >
>   > Vinny
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On 5/3/02 10:52 PM, "jt" <julianthomas@...> wrote:

> I was in a gallery yesterday, theowner was saying 'no' to inkjet but a
> customer bought two glossy prints - full price - anyway. Despite knowing I'd
> made the sales, the owner still said 'come back with silver portfolio'.

I certainly hope he didn't get any commission!

Robert

On 5/3/02 7:47 PM, "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...> wrote:

> I am curious Robert....
> 
> Spraying the print after 24 hours....
> 
> I take it this is to "coat" the print so that the pigment does not wipe off.

Yes and the enormous dmax gain as Julian mentioned.
 
> What if you left the print to "cure" for a longer period?  Is the problem of
> smearing alleviated with some more time or is the pigment just sitting on the
> surface like a dust coating?

> What if the print was put behind glass and never touched?  Do you think the
> image would be "permanent" or would the surface somehow change (dusting off of
> the pigment)?

I'd say that Brightcube Semi-Matte and Generations Prophoto Lustre could be
framed underglass...the others...are too dusty.  But...do you know what a
difference another .5 dmax makes...well of course you do...you've seen a
silver print.
 
I'm going to send out a print on one of these papers for the June print
exchange...I think there is still a slot left...curious Steadman.

Robert


> Steadman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert G. Morrison
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Bright Cube & Piezo ink
> 
> 
> I've posted quit a bit on this recently...check the archives.  The best
> profile is Epson Premium Photo Glossy.  You will need to spray the paper
> 24hr after you print it.  I suggest Krylon 1305 as the spray.  Check the
> files section for my glossy paper screen file.  Semi-Matte has the same
> coating as prophoto silk. This is one of the best luster finish papers for
> use with Piezo or MIS quad inks.
> 
> Robert
> 
> On 5/3/02 4:26 PM, "vinyo88" <orlandovl@...> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone printed on Bright Cube Semi Matt with the Piezo drivers
>> and Piezo Ink? If so how did you like it and what driver did you use
>> 
>> Vinny
>> 
>> 
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No, I did the deal at a cafe next door! i still wanted to get in with that
gallery!

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Bright Cube & Piezo ink


> On 5/3/02 10:52 PM, "jt" <julianthomas@...> wrote:
>
> > I was in a gallery yesterday, theowner was saying 'no' to inkjet but a
> > customer bought two glossy prints - full price - anyway. Despite knowing
I'd
> > made the sales, the owner still said 'come back with silver portfolio'.
>
> I certainly hope he didn't get any commission!
>
> Robert
>
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Good anecdotes Julian. 

The dustfree environment is always a problem.  I have seen my own "spraying" attempts stymied by the inclusion of fibres and dust on the print surface...all while trying to improve the print.  For someone who is slightly "picky" like me...it was just too much trouble and too much of a risk of decline of quality (due to dust etc..).  

Regarding the archival and glossy issues again....

It would probably be best if we all printed on plastic film (archival....."acid free" plastics only of course...hah)  and with some type of ink that would adhere to the plastic. 


Hey Julian, I just remembered....it is only about 3 weeks to the "Big Event."  Best wishes and good luck. 

Steadman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jt 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 12:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Bright Cube & Piezo ink


  Steadman, I've tried this! If you put the print behind glass without
  spraying you miss out on the huge dmax increase.
  Well worth persevering with. My main problem (a part from buying crapstuff
  this time, is finding a dust free space to let the prints dry.
  I was in a gallery yesterday, theowner was saying 'no' to inkjet but a
  customer bought two glossy prints - full price - anyway. Despite knowing I'd
  made the sales, the owner still said 'come back with silver portfolio'.

  Julian
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...>
  To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 3:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Bright Cube & Piezo ink


  > I am curious Robert....
  >
  > Spraying the print after 24 hours....
  >
  > I take it this is to "coat" the print so that the pigment does not wipe
  off.
  >
  > What if you left the print to "cure" for a longer period?  Is the problem
  of smearing alleviated with some more time or is the pigment just sitting on
  the surface like a dust coating?
  >
  > What if the print was put behind glass and never touched?  Do you think
  the image would be "permanent" or would the surface somehow change (dusting
  off of the pigment)?
  >
  > Sincerely curious,
  >
  > Steadman
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Robert G. Morrison
  >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  >   Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:26 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Bright Cube & Piezo ink
  >
  >
  >   I've posted quit a bit on this recently...check the archives.  The best
  >   profile is Epson Premium Photo Glossy.  You will need to spray the paper
  >   24hr after you print it.  I suggest Krylon 1305 as the spray.  Check the
  >   files section for my glossy paper screen file.  Semi-Matte has the same
  >   coating as prophoto silk. This is one of the best luster finish papers
  for
  >   use with Piezo or MIS quad inks.
  >
  >   Robert
  >
  >   On 5/3/02 4:26 PM, "vinyo88" <orlandovl@...> wrote:
  >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   > Has anyone printed on Bright Cube Semi Matt with the Piezo drivers
  >   > and Piezo Ink? If so how did you like it and what driver did you use
  >   >
  >   > Vinny
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----- > Hey Julian, I just remembered....it is only about 3 weeks to the
"Big Event."  Best wishes and good luck.

Thanks Steadman!

julian