Digital BW, The Print

The July/Aug 2002 edition of photo techniques has a feature article
on 
p. 20 entitled "The Joy of Carbon Pigment Prints," by Mark Dubovoy.
To 
my dismay, his definition of a carbon pigment print is a print made
on 
a substrate coated with light-sensitive chemicals resulting in a
color 
print! This is an old process. I wonder, now, if we will confuse the 
issue by calling our ink jet digital prints "carbon pigment prints?"
If 
I read his article correctly, we may have to reconsider the name of
our 
media for classification purposes for collectors, museums, and 
galleries.

On another note, someone associated with the Santa Barbara Museum of 
Art told me that museums (and I assumed his) are now accepting
digital 
prints of the kind our group is making; that is carbon pigment based, 
inkjet prints on stable media.

Marty Knapp
http://www.martyknapp.com

Well there are these guys doing carbon B&W prints, or their colour pigment
prints with a life rating of more than 500 years! I think these guys use the
same process for their colour pigment prints as Dubovy call carbon
prints.....

http://www.atxstudio.com/index1.htm

The names are really just what you make of them.

tim

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> The July/Aug 2002 edition of photo techniques has a feature article
> on
> p. 20 entitled "The Joy of Carbon Pigment Prints," by Mark Dubovoy.
> To
> my dismay, his definition of a carbon pigment print is a print made
> on
> a substrate coated with light-sensitive chemicals resulting in a
> color
> print! This is an old process. I wonder, now, if we will confuse the
> issue by calling our ink jet digital prints "carbon pigment prints?"
> If
> I read his article correctly, we may have to reconsider the name of
> our
> media for classification purposes for collectors, museums, and
> galleries.
>
> On another note, someone associated with the Santa Barbara Museum of
> Art told me that museums (and I assumed his) are now accepting
> digital
> prints of the kind our group is making; that is carbon pigment based,
> inkjet prints on stable media.
>
> Marty Knapp
> http://www.martyknapp.com
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Marty,

Carbon prints have been around for a very, very long time and make extremely
beautiful prints. With 4 layers of carbon in gelatin the is a real three
dimensional look. However, you are correct and calling quad/hex inkjet
prints "carbon prints" is not proper as the name has been taken.

I still favor "Carbon Pigment Inkjet Prints" myself. Straightforward,
honest, to the point and no BS.

Martin Wesley
http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html



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Subject: [Digital BW] Carbon Pigment Printing, Dubovoy PT article


> The July/Aug 2002 edition of photo techniques has a feature article
> on
> p. 20 entitled "The Joy of Carbon Pigment Prints," by Mark Dubovoy.
> To
> my dismay, his definition of a carbon pigment print is a print made
> on
> a substrate coated with light-sensitive chemicals resulting in a
> color
> print! This is an old process. I wonder, now, if we will confuse the
> issue by calling our ink jet digital prints "carbon pigment prints?"
> If
> I read his article correctly, we may have to reconsider the name of
> our
> media for classification purposes for collectors, museums, and
> galleries.
>
> On another note, someone associated with the Santa Barbara Museum of
> Art told me that museums (and I assumed his) are now accepting
> digital
> prints of the kind our group is making; that is carbon pigment based,
> inkjet prints on stable media.
>
> Marty Knapp
> http://www.martyknapp.com
>
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
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