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Imageprint was Epson Printers was Re: [Digital BW] 2200 Printer

Imageprint was Epson Printers was Re: [Digital BW] 2200 Printer

2002-07-15 by Julian Thomas

>
> And I'll add my guess that we will all probably be using imageprint or
> someone else's RIP to drive them to take advantage of the variable droplet

I know that Image print is flavour of the month here and I'll probably get
blasted for saying this, but the samples I've seen of this rip (from a 7000)
had a horrible box-like dither that was easily spotted - regardless of DMax
differences, the Piezo 7000 RIP gave a much smoother print.

Julian

Re: Imageprint was Epson Printers was Re: [Digital BW] 2200 Printer

2002-07-15 by R Murai

I can't resist commenting on IP4 and have been holding back for weeks .....

I think IP4 for the MAC is horrendous and shouldn't even be offered for
sale. If you want to shell out the $s for the honor of being an unpaid beta
tester then have at it! Just have a lot of time and paper at your disposal
and hours of free long distance calling.

I even bought a PC box to try the IP4/PC version and couldn't get it to
print. The few prints that I was able to produce (MAC version) were awful.

Pro24 has been working fine. Although it's not a dual color/BW RIP if you
factor in the ink set, flushing carts and paper profiles it's cheaper and
FAR more convenient than IP4. And most importantly - Pro24 WORKS.

Although Colorbyte's tech support (Daniel - great guy!) is easy to work with
it seems that the enthusiasm of CB's management precedes their ability to
deliver as promised. And get clarification (i.e. read the fine print)
regarding their 30 day MBG

I know there are a few satisfied IP4/BW users out there - I've corresponded
with most of them - but all I encountered was days of frustration during and
after the purchase. I invested some serious time and $s but it didn't work
for me.

rm



>
> And I'll add my guess that we will all probably be using imageprint or
> someone else's RIP to drive them to take advantage of the variable droplet

I know that Image print is flavour of the month here and I'll probably get
blasted for saying this, but the samples I've seen of this rip (from a 7000)
had a horrible box-like dither that was easily spotted - regardless of DMax
differences, the Piezo 7000 RIP gave a much smoother print.

Julian


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RE: Imageprint was Epson Printers was Re: [Digital BW] 2200Printer

2002-07-16 by Shire,Stanley

On the other hand. Our IP has been excellent (both on the 10000CF and
the 3000). I have heard from other folks that the Mac version is rife
with problems but the Win version performs flawlessly. The speed gain
over the Epson driver is something to behold.200+ MB files begin
printing in under 10 seconds. 
 
Stan Shire
Associate Professor/Department Chair
Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
 
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Subject: Re: Imageprint was Epson Printers was Re: [Digital BW]
2200Printer
 
I can't resist commenting on IP4 and have been holding back for weeks
.....

I think IP4 for the MAC is horrendous and shouldn't even be offered for
sale. If you want to shell out the $s for the honor of being an unpaid
beta
tester then have at it! Just have a lot of time and paper at your
disposal
and hours of free long distance calling.

I even bought a PC box to try the IP4/PC version and couldn't get it to
print. The few prints that I was able to produce (MAC version) were
awful.

Pro24 has been working fine. Although it's not a dual color/BW RIP if
you
factor in the ink set, flushing carts and paper profiles it's cheaper
and
FAR more convenient than IP4. And most importantly - Pro24 WORKS.

Although Colorbyte's tech support (Daniel - great guy!) is easy to work
with
it seems that the enthusiasm of CB's management precedes their ability
to
deliver as promised. And get clarification (i.e. read the fine print)
regarding their 30 day MBG

I know there are a few satisfied IP4/BW users out there - I've
corresponded
with most of them - but all I encountered was days of frustration during
and
after the purchase. I invested some serious time and $s but it didn't
work
for me.

rm



>
> And I'll add my guess that we will all probably be using imageprint or
> someone else's RIP to drive them to take advantage of the variable
droplet

I know that Image print is flavour of the month here and I'll probably
get
blasted for saying this, but the samples I've seen of this rip (from a
7000)
had a horrible box-like dither that was easily spotted - regardless of
DMax
differences, the Piezo 7000 RIP gave a much smoother print.

Julian


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Re: Imageprint was Epson Printers was Re: [Digital BW] 2200Printer

2002-07-16 by Jeff Magidson

"Shire,Stanley" wrote:
> 
> On the other hand. Our IP has been excellent (both on the 10000CF and
> the 3000). I have heard from other folks that the Mac version is rife
> with problems but the Win version performs flawlessly. The speed gain
> over the Epson driver is something to behold.200+ MB files begin
> printing in under 10 seconds.

How about the Desktop versions..... especially for the Mac.. Any out
there tried it yet?? any reports??

-Jeff

Re: Imageprint was Epson Printers was Re: [Digital BW] 2200Printer

2002-07-16 by Robert G. Morrison

Yes, I'm using the mac version with a 1270, 1280 and 7000.  Review coming
shortly.

Robert
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On 7/16/02 2:20 PM, "Jeff Magidson" <jeffm@...> wrote:

> 
> 
> "Shire,Stanley" wrote:
>> 
>> On the other hand. Our IP has been excellent (both on the 10000CF and
>> the 3000). I have heard from other folks that the Mac version is rife
>> with problems but the Win version performs flawlessly. The speed gain
>> over the Epson driver is something to behold.200+ MB files begin
>> printing in under 10 seconds.
> 
> How about the Desktop versions..... especially for the Mac.. Any out
> there tried it yet?? any reports??
> 
> -Jeff

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