Digital BW, The Print

Thanks. I've used thick paper, too. But I'm looking for papers 
that will look and feel more like photographs. The inkjet papers 
are obvious candidates, but I don't know if their coatings will 
melt and mess up the printer's innards.

- David

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<david_bookbinder@s...> wrote:
> For a particular set of images, I want to use the relatively 

> crude graphic output of my laser printer. I am wondering if 

anyone 
> knows of a paper (or papers) that would be comparable in 
thickness, 
> feel, and resistance to yellowing as inkjet photo papers but 

> that will work with a laser printer. Or, alternatively, has 
anyone 
> put inkjet printers through a laser printer and successfully 

> printed on them without messing up the printer? If so, which 

> papers?
> 
> Thanks,
> David
> 

Hi David,

I've used quite a few different papers in my laser printer.
Never tried inkjet paper, but I have used paper as thick
as card stock.  The only thing I have noticed though is that
it doesn't do well with highly textured paper -- the smoother
the better.

Roy




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<david_bookbinder@s...> wrote:
> Thanks. I've used thick paper, too. But I'm looking for papers 
> that will look and feel more like photographs. The inkjet papers 
> are obvious candidates, but I don't know if their coatings will 
> melt and mess up the printer's innards.
> 
> - David

I don't know exactly what the coatings are i.e. whether they
can melt (that would be bad).  But I do dry mount at lot of my
prints and I've never seen any change in the surface.
Maybe some of the uncoated papers would be safer.

Roy

Aw, heck, curiousity got me.  I just printed on Epson Archival
Matte thru my HP 6MP and it seems fine.  Print quality is
nothing like the inkjets though.

This reminds me of printing cards several years ago.   I wanted
a couple of 100 cards for invitations.  I stacked a whole 
bunch and it feed fine but burned out the drum since the cards
were smaller than 8.5x11  -- the paper takes away quite a
bit of heat.   So if you print lots of small cards do 'em in
smaller batches.

Roy

Thanks for testing. I figured a matte paper would be safest but 
was too chicken to blow a drum finding out.

- David

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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., 
<david_bookbinder@s...> wrote:
> Thanks. I've used thick paper, too. But I'm looking for papers 

> that will look and feel more like photographs. The inkjet papers 

> are obvious candidates, but I don't know if their coatings 
will 
> melt and mess up the printer's innards.
> 
> - David

I don't know exactly what the coatings are i.e. whether they
can melt (that would be bad).  But I do dry mount at lot of my
prints and I've never seen any change in the surface.
Maybe some of the uncoated papers would be safer.

Roy

Aw, heck, curiousity got me.  I just printed on Epson Archival
Matte thru my HP 6MP and it seems fine.  Print quality is
nothing like the inkjets though.

This reminds me of printing cards several years ago.   I wanted
a couple of 100 cards for invitations.  I stacked a whole 
bunch and it feed fine but burned out the drum since the cards
were smaller than 8.5x11  -- the paper takes away quite a
bit of heat.   So if you print lots of small cards do 'em in
smaller batches.

Roy




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David,

Don't use coated inkjet paper!

Several days ago some coated inkjet paper accidently got mixed in with my 
letter-size laser-paper and made a mess: The inkjet paper jammed before it 
could move entirely out of the paper-tray. And though the print-quality of 
my (Minolta Magicolor 2200) laser printer hasn't been affected, the printer 
squeaks when it prints. A Minolta techie says that the OPC drum may be damaged.

Pat

At 11:41 PM 8/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>Thanks. I've used thick paper, too. But I'm looking for papers
>that will look and feel more like photographs. The inkjet papers
>are obvious candidates, but I don't know if their coatings will
>melt and mess up the printer's innards.
>
>- David
>
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>
>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...,
><david_bookbinder@s...> wrote:
> > For a particular set of images, I want to use the relatively
>
> > crude graphic output of my laser printer. I am wondering if
>
>anyone
> > knows of a paper (or papers) that would be comparable in
>thickness,
> > feel, and resistance to yellowing as inkjet photo papers but
>
> > that will work with a laser printer. Or, alternatively, has
>anyone
> > put inkjet printers through a laser printer and successfully
>
> > printed on them without messing up the printer? If so, which
>
> > papers?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >

Thanks for the warning. But, do you happen to know what breed 
of inkjet printer paper this was (the fast-drying, ceramic-coated 
kind or the slow-drying, RC-coated kind)? 

- David

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David,

Don't use coated inkjet paper!

Several days ago some coated inkjet paper accidently got mixed 
in with my 
letter-size laser-paper and made a mess: The inkjet paper jammed 
before it 
could move entirely out of the paper-tray. And though the print-quality 
of 
my (Minolta Magicolor 2200) laser printer hasn't been affected, 
the printer 
squeaks when it prints. A Minolta techie says that the OPC drum 
may be damaged.

Pat

At 11:41 PM 8/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks. I've used thick paper, too. But I'm looking for papers
>that will look and feel more like photographs. The inkjet papers
>are obvious candidates, but I don't know if their coatings will
>melt and mess up the printer's innards.
>
>- David
>
>= = = Original message = = =
>
>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...,
><david_bookbinder@s...> wrote:
> > For a particular set of images, I want to use the relatively
>
> > crude graphic output of my laser printer. I am wondering 
if
>
>anyone
> > knows of a paper (or papers) that would be comparable in
>thickness,
> > feel, and resistance to yellowing as inkjet photo papers 
but
>
> > that will work with a laser printer. Or, alternatively, has
>anyone
> > put inkjet printers through a laser printer and successfully
>
> > printed on them without messing up the printer? If so, which
>
> > papers?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >



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IBM Photo Quality Matte coated (on one side) inkjet 8.5x11 paper (very 
inexpensive) that I use to test my inkjet images before proofing 13x19.

    I keep a stack on the shelf behind my Epson; and when I borrowed some 
plain paper from the laser tray to do the Epson head check, then returned 
the unused paper to the laser tray, I also picked up an unknown number of 
sheets of the coated paper.

    UPDATE: Yesterday I laser-printed postcards (1,000 passes), and toward 
the end of the run the squeaking STOPPED! This morning I turned the Minolta 
back on, and STILL NO SQUEAK; so hooray!

    But I'm mystified...

Pat

At 11:23 PM 8/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>Thanks for the warning. But, do you happen to know what breed
>of inkjet printer paper this was (the fast-drying, ceramic-coated
>kind or the slow-drying, RC-coated kind)?
>
>- David
>
>= = = Original message = = =
>
>David,
>
>Don't use coated inkjet paper!
>
>Several days ago some coated inkjet paper accidently got mixed
>in with my
>letter-size laser-paper and made a mess: The inkjet paper jammed
>before it
>could move entirely out of the paper-tray. And though the print-quality
>of
>my (Minolta Magicolor 2200) laser printer hasn't been affected,
>the printer
>squeaks when it prints. A Minolta techie says that the OPC drum
>may be damaged.
>
>Pat

Glad your laser printer fixed itself. Maybe the bits of coating 
finally wore off. I had a laser printer that appeared to have 
a fatal scratch in the drum or fusing usint, and over time it 
disappeared (of course, I'd already bought a new printer by then...); 
apparently it was actually a glob of something, not a scratch.

I'll hunt around for nice-looking, archival uncoated papers. 
Crane was mentioned here. Some watercolor papers might also work. 
Perhaps there are others as well.

More anon,
David 

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IBM Photo Quality Matte coated (on one side) inkjet 8.5x11 paper 
(very 
inexpensive) that I use to test my inkjet images before proofing 
13x19.

    I keep a stack on the shelf behind my Epson; and when I borrowed 
some 
plain paper from the laser tray to do the Epson head check, then 
returned 
the unused paper to the laser tray, I also picked up an unknown 
number of 
sheets of the coated paper.

    UPDATE: Yesterday I laser-printed postcards (1,000 passes), 
and toward 
the end of the run the squeaking STOPPED! This morning I turned 
the Minolta 
back on, and STILL NO SQUEAK; so hooray!

    But I'm mystified...

Pat

At 11:23 PM 8/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks for the warning. But, do you happen to know what breed
>of inkjet printer paper this was (the fast-drying, ceramic-coated
>kind or the slow-drying, RC-coated kind)?
>
>- David
>
>= = = Original message = = =
>
>David,
>
>Don't use coated inkjet paper!
>
>Several days ago some coated inkjet paper accidently got mixed
>in with my
>letter-size laser-paper and made a mess: The inkjet paper jammed
>before it
>could move entirely out of the paper-tray. And though the print-quality
>of
>my (Minolta Magicolor 2200) laser printer hasn't been affected,
>the printer
>squeaks when it prints. A Minolta techie says that the OPC drum
>may be damaged.
>
>Pat



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