Digital BW, The Print

Help...my epson 2000P won't believe that I have put in new cartridges (epson, 
really)...the light won't go off....yes I have tried different cartrideges...any 
ideas?


Thanks in advance!
trish

I've read some posts here regarding the R220 being used with UTR2 MIS
Inks'. I'd like to go this way for digital B&W printing but realized
that I can't find any R220 (neither new or used). Would the R265 or
the R360 do the same work? Otherwise which A4 printer should I
consider to buy? My budget is very limited so I can't consider buying
the R2400 or the new R3800.

Michele,

I got my R220 at Ritz Camera a little over a month ago. The R220s
aren't listed on their website but give your local store a call. My
store said if they didn't have one they could get one from another
store. The C88s are still available but they don't print BO very well
and work best with glossy papers. Good luck!

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Michele Berti"
<michele@...> wrote:

>
> I've read some posts here regarding the R220 being used with UTR2 MIS
> Inks'. I'd like to go this way for digital B&W printing but realized
> that I can't find any R220 (neither new or used). Would the R265 or
> the R360 do the same work? Otherwise which A4 printer should I
> consider to buy? My budget is very limited so I can't consider buying
> the R2400 or the new R3800.
>

I've been using the R220 with the MIS UTR2 inkset for a few months. The 
combo creates very nice prints. I recently set the R220 up for variable 
tone BO printing by adding the UTR2 warm inks. For the money the R200 
with the MIS inkset is unbeatable.

BTW - I found my R220 at a local camera shop for $60 (US). Right now 
there are four or five available on ebay at good prices.

Eric

Eric (and anyone else),

How do you like the variable tone printing with the R220? I started
with the warm tone inkset and my R220 so I could try something
different from the neutral inkset that I used on the C86. I find the
warm tone inkset too warm for my tastes but not a big deal since I've
been printing BO for the most part. Now I have a couple of images that
have a lot of detail and the BO prints are too 'grainy'. I'm thinking
about buying the all the neutral inks but debating whether or not to
set up for variable tone printing. Any thoughts?

Scott 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Miner"
<eminer1254@...> wrote:

>
> I've been using the R220 with the MIS UTR2 inkset for a few months. The 
> combo creates very nice prints. I recently set the R220 up for variable 
> tone BO printing by adding the UTR2 warm inks. For the money the R200 
> with the MIS inkset is unbeatable.
> 
> BTW - I found my R220 at a local camera shop for $60 (US). Right now 
> there are four or five available on ebay at good prices.
> 
> Eric
>

I find the neutral inks too cool and quite bluish on many papers.  I 
recommend having one dark and white light ink warm, the other light 
and dark cool and yellow cool.  

I have warm in magenta/light magenta, cool ink cyan/light cyan and 
cool in yellow and find it neutral.  I hope to create some ICC 
profiles with the driver slider set to -20C +20M, etc for a 
simplified variable tone inkset.  

I find that just the driver sliders don't give me consistency with 
the Roark ICC workflow.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scottkathe1" 
<scott.kathe@...> wrote:
>
> Eric (and anyone else),
> 
> How do you like the variable tone printing with the R220? I started
> with the warm tone inkset and my R220 so I could try something
> different from the neutral inkset that I used on the C86. I find 
the
> warm tone inkset too warm for my tastes but not a big deal since 
I've
> been printing BO for the most part. Now I have a couple of images 
that
> have a lot of detail and the BO prints are too 'grainy'. I'm 
thinking
> about buying the all the neutral inks but debating whether or not 
to
> set up for variable tone printing. Any thoughts?
> 
> Scott 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Miner"
> <eminer1254@> wrote:
> >
> > I've been using the R220 with the MIS UTR2 inkset for a few 
months. The 
> > combo creates very nice prints. I recently set the R220 up for 
variable 
> > tone BO printing by adding the UTR2 warm inks. For the money the 
R200 
> > with the MIS inkset is unbeatable.
> > 
> > BTW - I found my R220 at a local camera shop for $60 (US). Right 
now 

> > there are four or five available on ebay at good prices.
> > 
> > Eric
> >
>

I found the MIS-EZN inks ,even with the warm ink in the yellow
position, were a bit on the cool side with my C86 and EEM. That's why
I opted for the warm inkset with my R220-but its way too warm. Maybe
the neutral inks for the R220 and a 'warm' paper will give the look
I'm after.

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roger"
<rsmith02@...> wrote:

>
> I find the neutral inks too cool and quite bluish on many papers.  I 
> recommend having one dark and white light ink warm, the other light 
> and dark cool and yellow cool.  
> 
> I have warm in magenta/light magenta, cool ink cyan/light cyan and 
> cool in yellow and find it neutral.  I hope to create some ICC 
> profiles with the driver slider set to -20C +20M, etc for a 
> simplified variable tone inkset.  
> 
> I find that just the driver sliders don't give me consistency with 
> the Roark ICC workflow.
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scottkathe1" 
> <scott.kathe@> wrote:
> >
> > Eric (and anyone else),
> > 
> > How do you like the variable tone printing with the R220? I started
> > with the warm tone inkset and my R220 so I could try something
> > different from the neutral inkset that I used on the C86. I find 
> the
> > warm tone inkset too warm for my tastes but not a big deal since 
> I've
> > been printing BO for the most part. Now I have a couple of images 
> that
> > have a lot of detail and the BO prints are too 'grainy'. I'm 
> thinking
> > about buying the all the neutral inks but debating whether or not 
> to
> > set up for variable tone printing. Any thoughts?
> > 
> > Scott 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Miner"
> > <eminer1254@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been using the R220 with the MIS UTR2 inkset for a few 
> months. The 
> > > combo creates very nice prints. I recently set the R220 up for 
> variable 
> > > tone BO printing by adding the UTR2 warm inks. For the money the 
> R200 
> > > with the MIS inkset is unbeatable.
> > > 
> > > BTW - I found my R220 at a local camera shop for $60 (US). Right 
> now 
> > > there are four or five available on ebay at good prices.
> > > 
> > > Eric
> > >
> >
>

Hi Michele;

The two newer printers you mention will most likely do an even better 
job, when they are supported; Right now there are no re-fillable carts, 
no chip re-setters, nothing at all to make them useable for 3rd party 
inks and printing systems.

I just did a search on ebay, there are several new printers being 
offered that look safe enough. The models that will work are: R200, 
R220, R300, R320, and R340. 

Best,

Steve Karafyllakis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Michele Berti" 
<michele@...> wrote:

>
> I've read some posts here regarding the R220 being used with UTR2 MIS
> Inks'. I'd like to go this way for digital B&W printing but realized
> that I can't find any R220 (neither new or used). Would the R265 or
> the R360 do the same work? Otherwise which A4 printer should I
> consider to buy? My budget is very limited so I can't consider buying
> the R2400 or the new R3800.
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Michele;
> 
> The two newer printers you mention will most likely do an even better 
> job, when they are supported; Right now there are no re-fillable carts, 
> no chip re-setters, nothing at all to make them useable for 3rd party 
> inks and printing systems.
> 
> I just did a search on ebay, there are several new printers being 
> offered that look safe enough. The models that will work are: R200, 
> R220, R300, R320, and R340. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Steve Karafyllakis
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Michele Berti" 
> <michele@> wrote:
> >
> > I've read some posts here regarding the R220 being used with UTR2 MIS
> > Inks'. I'd like to go this way for digital B&W printing but realized
> > that I can't find any R220 (neither new or used). Would the R265 or
> > the R360 do the same work? Otherwise which A4 printer should I
> > consider to buy? My budget is very limited so I can't consider buying
> > the R2400 or the new R3800.
> >
>


Thnx Steve, that's the info I was looking for.

Hey Scott,

So far I like what the variable tone set up is giving me. For most of 
my prints I leave the sliders at 0. This produces a warmer image that 
the neutral inks alone, but not enough to call the image 'warm'. For 
some images I like the neutral inks only.....for other images I like 
more warm ink so I increase the ammount via the sliders. It all depends.

Eric
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scottkathe1" 
<scott.kathe@...> wrote:

>
> Eric (and anyone else),
> 
> How do you like the variable tone printing with the R220? I started
> with the warm tone inkset and my R220 so I could try something
> different from the neutral inkset that I used on the C86. I find the
> warm tone inkset too warm for my tastes but not a big deal since I've
> been printing BO for the most part. Now I have a couple of images that
> have a lot of detail and the BO prints are too 'grainy'. I'm thinking
> about buying the all the neutral inks but debating whether or not to
> set up for variable tone printing. Any thoughts?
> 
> Scott 
>