Digital BW, The Print

Hello All,

I just noticed sometime new with EAM, and I am not sure what to make 
of it.  I opened a new box of 8-1/2 x 11 paper, and printed a 
photograph I already have a print of. When comparing the two prints, 
I noticed that new paper is significantly warmer than the old paper!

The new paper has the Lot No. 02CC2004M, 5 boxes of which I recently 
bought from Atlex.Com. The old, cooler paper is of Lot No. 01JK1015M. 
EAM and EEM I have at hand in the 13 x 19 size match the old paper, 
so the new lot I got is certainly odd.

Anyone else experience this? It may not be so bad afterall, because I 
use MIS FS-N inks, which can be just slightly on the cool side of my 
preference.

Shilesh

I just scanned the papers on a flat-bed, with lowered exposure 
setting, used levels to accentuate the differences. Here is what I 
found:

New paper: R/G/B = 188/188/173 (definitely blue-deficient)
Old paper: R/G/B = 189/189/189 (dead-neutral!)

It does not seem to be brightner problem. Both papers glow just as 
much, visually under black light.

What's up? Arghhh.

Shilesh


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "janishilesh" 
<shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I just noticed sometime new with EAM, and I am not sure what to 
make 
> of it.  I opened a new box of 8-1/2 x 11 paper, and printed a 
> photograph I already have a print of. When comparing the two 
prints, 
> I noticed that new paper is significantly warmer than the old paper!
> 
> The new paper has the Lot No. 02CC2004M, 5 boxes of which I 
recently 
> bought from Atlex.Com. The old, cooler paper is of Lot No. 
01JK1015M. 
> EAM and EEM I have at hand in the 13 x 19 size match the old paper, 
> so the new lot I got is certainly odd.
> 
> Anyone else experience this? It may not be so bad afterall, because 
I 
> use MIS FS-N inks, which can be just slightly on the cool side of 
my 

> preference.
> 
> Shilesh

Friday, August 30, 2002, 6:17:27 PM, janishilesh wrote:

j> Hello All,

j> I just noticed sometime new with EAM, and I am not sure what to make 
j> of it.  I opened a new box of 8-1/2 x 11 paper, and printed a 
j> photograph I already have a print of. When comparing the two prints, 
j> I noticed that new paper is significantly warmer than the old paper!

j> The new paper has the Lot No. 02CC2004M, 5 boxes of which I recently 
j> bought from Atlex.Com. The old, cooler paper is of Lot No. 01JK1015M. 
j> EAM and EEM I have at hand in the 13 x 19 size match the old paper, 
j> so the new lot I got is certainly odd.

j> Anyone else experience this? It may not be so bad afterall, because I 
j> use MIS FS-N inks, which can be just slightly on the cool side of my 
j> preference.

j> Shilesh


Shilesh,

I've opened two new boxes of 8-1/2 x 11 of EAM from Atlex as well the
last two days, same lot # of you.  And I also thought I noticed the
paper looking a more yellow-warm than I was used to.  Thought it was
just my lighting, but now that you mention it...

Best regards,
 Richard  

mailto:richard@...

Shilesh,

The yellowness you measured in the new EAM is more than I'd think would be
an acceptable manufacturing variance.

I got worried and checked a new roll of EEM that I recently received.  With
the X-Rite it measured exactly the same as my letter-size EAM from Atlex
some months ago -- CMY = 0.04, 0.04, 0.03.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

________________________________________________________________________

  -----Original Message-----
  From: janishilesh [mailto:shilesh.jani@...]
  Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 5:38 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Archival Matte - Paper/Coating Changed (?)


  I just scanned the papers on a flat-bed, with lowered exposure
  setting, used levels to accentuate the differences. Here is what I
  found:

  New paper: R/G/B = 188/188/173 (definitely blue-deficient)
  Old paper: R/G/B = 189/189/189 (dead-neutral!)

  It does not seem to be brightner problem. Both papers glow just as
  much, visually under black light.

  What's up? Arghhh.

  Shilesh


  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "janishilesh"
  <shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
  > Hello All,
  >
  > I just noticed sometime new with EAM, and I am not sure what to
  make
  > of it.  I opened a new box of 8-1/2 x 11 paper, and printed a
  > photograph I already have a print of. When comparing the two
  prints,
  > I noticed that new paper is significantly warmer than the old paper!
  >
  > The new paper has the Lot No. 02CC2004M, 5 boxes of which I
  recently
  > bought from Atlex.Com. The old, cooler paper is of Lot No.
  01JK1015M.
  > EAM and EEM I have at hand in the 13 x 19 size match the old paper,
  > so the new lot I got is certainly odd.
  >
  > Anyone else experience this? It may not be so bad afterall, because
  I
  > use MIS FS-N inks, which can be just slightly on the cool side of
  my
  > preference.
  >
  > Shilesh


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