Digital BW, The Print

In a message dated 9/3/02 4:49:22 PM, frank@... writes:

>A few of my images prepared as digital files have been accepted at a 
>stock photo agency. The catch is that they do not want digital files 
>OR my carbon pigment b&w prints (with my existing agency I can simply 
>send them images on cd). They want traditional b&w silver prints. So 
>now I need to figure out the best way to make B&W negs from the 
>files - and then I can have regular prints made.
>
>Anyone have experience to share ?

How about having them printed by wet chemical process in black and white on 
an imagesetter? Just be sure its on opaque, not transparent, film... unless 
they accept transparencies.

C. David Tobie
Design Cooperative
CDTobie@...

I can output them to black & white negs 35mm or 4x5. Call me.
Mark 203-791-1474

CDTobie@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 9/3/02 4:49:22 PM, frank@... writes:
>
> >A few of my images prepared as digital files have been accepted at a
> >stock photo agency. The catch is that they do not want digital files
> >OR my carbon pigment b&w prints (with my existing agency I can simply
>
> >send them images on cd). They want traditional b&w silver prints. So
> >now I need to figure out the best way to make B&W negs from the
> >files - and then I can have regular prints made.
> >
> >Anyone have experience to share ?
>
> How about having them printed by wet chemical process in black and
> white on
> an imagesetter? Just be sure its on opaque, not transparent, film...
> unless
> they accept transparencies.
>
> C. David Tobie
> Design Cooperative
> CDTobie@...
>
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Frank, you might get Dan Burkholder's book on making digital negatives (www.danburkholder.com).  It comes with a CD with various compensation curves for making negs for silver or alternative prints.  I got some fairly good pt/pd prints, but the paper used with those hides a lot of faults that silver paper doesn't.  The trick is that you have to find a high-end imagesetter, and an operator that is skilled and will take the time for your project.  Also, with imagesetter negs you're talking about contact prints, not enlargements.  You're probably better off outputting to film though that is $$$.

  -Ken 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: frankg_photo 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:48 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] What's the latest on digital negativess ?


  A few of my images prepared as digital files have been accepted at a 
  stock photo agency. The catch is that they do not want digital files 
  OR my carbon pigment b&w prints (with my existing agency I can simply 
  send them images on cd). They want traditional b&w silver prints. So 
  now I need to figure out the best way to make B&W negs from the 
  files - and then I can have regular prints made.

  Anyone have experience to share ?
  thanks,
  Frank
  www.frankgross.com


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Or get prints from a Fuji or a Lightjet- if you have many to do, with a
Lightjet you can gang them up and print many to a 44" wide roll.

Bill

on 9/3/02 5:06 PM, CDTobie@... wrote:

> 
> In a message dated 9/3/02 4:49:22 PM, frank@... writes:
> 
>> A few of my images prepared as digital files have been accepted at a
>> stock photo agency. The catch is that they do not want digital files
>> OR my carbon pigment b&w prints (with my existing agency I can simply
>> send them images on cd). They want traditional b&w silver prints. So
>> now I need to figure out the best way to make B&W negs from the
>> files - and then I can have regular prints made.
>> 
>> Anyone have experience to share ?
> 
> How about having them printed by wet chemical process in black and white on
> an imagesetter? Just be sure its on opaque, not transparent, film... unless
> they accept transparencies.
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Design Cooperative
> CDTobie@...
> 
> 
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I would vote for the lightjet prints also. The digital negatives will be 
expensive, frustrating, and involve some testing for good results. Of cousre 
you will need some tests with the light jet also. If you go lightjet, find 
one that uses Fuji Crystal archive paper. Black and white prints on this 
paper can be very, very good.
Steven Meyers


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