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Re: Shooting digital vs. film

2002-09-05 by grdglass@aol.com

Kodak has always had a B+W version.  Current model is the 760M 
(M=monochrome).  Quite nice.  $11,000.

Helene


> Possibly, but I'm holding out for 16 ;-)  But...I shoot mostly B&W and every
> 35mm digicam is "that" Bayer pattern color CCD (or the Foveon...anyone
> really ever see one yet???), which isn't near as good for B&W as
> film...perhaps someone will come up with a straight B&W 35mm body at some
> point in time...but I'm not holding my breath.  It's a pretty niche market.
> 



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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Shooting digital vs. film

2002-09-05 by Austin Franklin

Hi Helene,

I know they've pretty much always had a B&W version, it's the 16M pixels
that I was questioning...as the 760M is a 6M pixel camera.  The ISO is
somewhat limited on that camera too...400 to 800.  It's OK, but there are
times when slow is good.

Austin
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>
> Kodak has always had a B+W version.  Current model is the 760M
> (M=monochrome).  Quite nice.  $11,000.
>
> Helene
>
>
> > Possibly, but I'm holding out for 16 ;-)  But...I shoot mostly
> B&W and every
> > 35mm digicam is "that" Bayer pattern color CCD (or the Foveon...anyone
> > really ever see one yet???), which isn't near as good for B&W as
> > film...perhaps someone will come up with a straight B&W 35mm
> body at some
> > point in time...but I'm not holding my breath.  It's a pretty
> niche market.
> >

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Shooting digital vs. film

2002-09-05 by J Greer

The sensor is indeed 6MP but as I understand it more pixels can be devoted 
to image capture since the sensor doesn't have to use several pixels to 
determine the color of a single pixel -- everything is monochrome. 
According to Kodak's site, TIFF files come out in 12MB or 18MB depending on 
how you want the data configured.

Jeff Greer

At 04:22 PM 09/05/2002 -0400, you wrote:
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>Hi Helene,
>
>I know they've pretty much always had a B&W version, it's the 16M pixels
>that I was questioning...as the 760M is a 6M pixel camera.  The ISO is
>somewhat limited on that camera too...400 to 800.  It's OK, but there are
>times when slow is good.
>
>Austin
>
>
> >
> > Kodak has always had a B+W version.  Current model is the 760M
> > (M=monochrome).  Quite nice.  $11,000.
> >
> > Helene
> >
> >
> > > Possibly, but I'm holding out for 16 ;-)  But...I shoot mostly
> > B&W and every
> > > 35mm digicam is "that" Bayer pattern color CCD (or the Foveon...anyone
> > > really ever see one yet???), which isn't near as good for B&W as
> > > film...perhaps someone will come up with a straight B&W 35mm
> > body at some
> > > point in time...but I'm not holding my breath.  It's a pretty
> > niche market.
> > >
>
>
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Shooting digital vs. film

2002-09-06 by Austin Franklin

Hi Jeff,

Correct, there is no Bayer pattern, so the actual data is "real", not
interpolated...but that resolution (and the fact that it's not a full frame
sensor) is insufficient for my needs...16M pixels would do quite well.  The
camera is also a beast...

I don't understand what they mean by the description of the 18M files...they
say it's an 18MB "finished" TIFF, 8 bit monochrome, 3 channels.  The sensor
is physically single channel, 12 bits per pixel, not three channels...  Does
anyone know what the three 8 bit channels per pixel is and what it would be
used for?  I can't see that it would have more valid usable information than
the 12 bits/pixel.

Regards,

Austin
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> The sensor is indeed 6MP but as I understand it more pixels can
> be devoted
> to image capture since the sensor doesn't have to use several pixels to
> determine the color of a single pixel -- everything is monochrome.
> According to Kodak's site, TIFF files come out in 12MB or 18MB
> depending on
> how you want the data configured.
>
> Jeff Greer
>
> At 04:22 PM 09/05/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi Helene,
> >
> >I know they've pretty much always had a B&W version, it's the 16M pixels
> >that I was questioning...as the 760M is a 6M pixel camera.  The ISO is
> >somewhat limited on that camera too...400 to 800.  It's OK, but there are
> >times when slow is good.
> >
> >Austin
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Kodak has always had a B+W version.  Current model is the 760M
> > > (M=monochrome).  Quite nice.  $11,000.
> > >
> > > Helene
> > >
> > >
> > > > Possibly, but I'm holding out for 16 ;-)  But...I shoot mostly
> > > B&W and every
> > > > 35mm digicam is "that" Bayer pattern color CCD (or the
> Foveon...anyone
> > > > really ever see one yet???), which isn't near as good for B&W as
> > > > film...perhaps someone will come up with a straight B&W 35mm
> > > body at some
> > > > point in time...but I'm not holding my breath.  It's a pretty
> > > niche market.
> > > >

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