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[Digital BW] Re: Help-non use of printer

[Digital BW] Re: Help-non use of printer

2002-09-12 by Paul Roark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Vincent Orlando"
<orlandovl@h...> wrote:
>
> Need any info on parking my printer, 1200 epson, with cis and Mis VM
> inks for app 3 months. What is the best way to shut it down for that
> length of time and not have to throw it away when I return
>


Jim Hayes wrote:

>I disagree with Paul. Cleaning carts I have never had success with,
>they are misnamed- only for switching inks, not "cleaning".

The MIS carts I had in mind are just clear base -- call it flushing fluid.
The point is not to clean the head.  I agree the Epson OEM solvent is
better.  However, I suspect the clear base might be better than any ink --
even Epson dye -- when it comes to avoiding the problem of dried ink
clogging the head.  My suggestion gets rid of all the ink.

Several people have suggested the plugs for the CIS that are probably the
same as the NoMoreCarts plugs I was using when the old CIS killed my print
heads.

I have not heard any suggestions yet that would stop the ink from drying out
right through the CIS tubes.  That is why I suggested draining the tubes.
I'm wondering if an alternative that would be much easier is to put the CIS
in a Zip lock bag, perhaps with a damp sponge to keep the humidity high --
just a wild thought here.  I have no successful experiences with old CISs
that have been sitting around a while.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

[Digital BW] Re: Help-non use of printer

2002-09-13 by jim hayes

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Vincent Orlando"
> <orlandovl@h...> wrote:
> >
> > Need any info on parking my printer, 1200 epson, with cis and Mis 
VM
> > inks for app 3 months. What is the best way to shut it down for 
that
> > length of time and not have to throw it away when I return
> >
> 
> 
> Jim Hayes wrote:
> 
> >I disagree with Paul. Cleaning carts I have never had success with,
> >they are misnamed- only for switching inks, not "cleaning".
> 
> The MIS carts I had in mind are just clear base -- call it flushing 
fluid.
> The point is not to clean the head.  I agree the Epson OEM solvent 
is
> better.  However, I suspect the clear base might be better than any 
ink --
> even Epson dye -- when it comes to avoiding the problem of dried ink
> clogging the head.  My suggestion gets rid of all the ink.



Well, I will agree with you there- clear base is better than ink. Or 
it sounds good at the very least. The problem I have with recommending 
the cleaning carts over the Epson carts is that when I installed 
cleaning carts in a printer it never cleared a nozzle clog. The Epson 
carts did clean up the nozzles right away, and continued to do so as 
long as they were installed. So I could turn printer on a week later 
and get a clear check without much cleaning cycles. 

But when I insured a clean nozzle check- but then installed cleaning 
carts, after three weeks I switched back to pigment inks and I had to 
spend quite a lot of effort and days clearing the nozzle. It could 
very well be that the pigment ink was bad, I'll grant that. But my 
sense is that if I had been running Epson carts instead, the nozzles 
would have been better prepared to accept the return of the pig inks 
after three weeks. And turning the printer on every week would have 
had more of a clearing effect with Epson carts than cleaning carts. I 
could be wrong, lot's of unknowns there.


Sort of like the Epson carts self clean but cleaning carts just act as 
a sort of "neutral fluid". Now this is based on one bad experience 
trying cleaning carts, and Paul, you could be right. It certainly 
seems to make more commen sense your way. So I guess if anyone has 
positive experiences with cleaning carts  used for storing to report 
that here.
 
> 
> Several people have suggested the plugs for the CIS that are 
probably the
> same as the NoMoreCarts plugs

Yes.


 I was using when the old CIS killed my 
print
> heads.
> 
> I have not heard any suggestions yet that would stop the ink from 
drying out
> right through the CIS tubes.  That is why I suggested draining the 
tubes.


I agreed with you there. I suggested installing new carts on the 
(previously flushed) tubing as a possible fix.

> I'm wondering if an alternative that would be much easier is to put 
the CIS
> in a Zip lock bag, perhaps with a damp sponge to keep the humidity 
high --
> just a wild thought here.  I have no successful experiences with old 
CISs
> that have been sitting around a while.


Quite a cute idea- it might be worth a try, and it would save messing 
with tubing flushing and cart changing. Who knows?
Jim H.
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