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Print displays

2002-09-17 by Bill Giffen

I have just received my 7600 and will be in the process of supplying prints
of my photographs to various locations. I will also have a few gallery
showings at some of Houston finer Day spas, and restaurants. I also have
four retail shops to display my prints, Avis car rental I know sounds weird)
several specialty shops and my one big shop in Fredricksburg Texas.

Question: what sizes should I print. I shoot from a D1x and shoot full
frame. 8x12 and 11x17 etc.. , after matting a 11x17 would yield a 17x23. I
know in some places this might be a little large (for avis) but in one day
spa I have a great brick wall about 30ft with plenty of room. Should I make
the largest prints I can to show and maybe have a few smaller samples prints
for them to see also. What do you think about retail outlets 8x12 with a few
largers prints.

also, I have been printing B&W with my 7000 but mainly for portrait work, I
have yet to find really good methods to mount the print in my mats. I have a
rotor trim and a nice matt cutter. I have taped the prints and hinged the
mats, and used corner mounts and taped the matt. There is I am sure many
ways to do this but I am still in the dark as to how to present my prints in
retail outlets.

I really appreciate any help. I am also posting in other groups

Bill Giffen

some of my prints are at http://www.pbase.com/wag/my_san_miguel_portfolio

Re: [Digital BW] Print displays

2002-09-17 by Bill Agee

At 8:17 AM -0500 9/17/02, Bill Giffen wrote:
>I have just received my 7600 and will be in the process of supplying prints
>of my photographs to various locations. I will also have a few gallery
>showings at some of Houston finer Day spas, and restaurants. I also have
>four retail shops to display my prints, Avis car rental I know sounds weird)
>several specialty shops and my one big shop in Fredricksburg Texas.
>
>Question: what sizes should I print. I shoot from a D1x and shoot full
>frame. 8x12 and 11x17 etc.. , after matting a 11x17 would yield a 17x23. I
>know in some places this might be a little large (for avis) but in one day
>spa I have a great brick wall about 30ft with plenty of room. Should I make
>the largest prints I can to show and maybe have a few smaller samples prints
>for them to see also. What do you think about retail outlets 8x12 with a few
>largers prints.
>
>also, I have been printing B&W with my 7000 but mainly for portrait work, I
>have yet to find really good methods to mount the print in my mats. I have a
>rotor trim and a nice matt cutter. I have taped the prints and hinged the
>mats, and used corner mounts and taped the matt. There is I am sure many
>ways to do this but I am still in the dark as to how to present my prints in
>retail outlets.
>
>I really appreciate any help. I am also posting in other groups
>
>Bill Giffen
>
>some of my prints are at http://www.pbase.com/wag/my_san_miguel_portfolio
>

Bill,

I like the 10x15 size.  I put them in a 16x21 frame.  If you are 
mounting traditionally, I would just have a window mat cut and tape 
the print on the back with white archival tape...available at most 
art stores.  Then put a back board on it with a hinge at the 
top...the sandwich ( print between two mount boards) goes into a 
plastic bag that is form fitting.  Galleries prefer this way

Alternative way for shops, which keeps the cost down with less matt 
cutting.. mount the print on a single board with no over-mat.  I use 
3M Vac-U-Mount spray for that...then put it in a plastic bag...and a 
label on the back of the mat.

Bags come in many sizes from several different suppliers.  I have 
used Impact Images for 5-6 years...they are located on the East and 
West Coast.

http://www.clearbags.com/

Good luck,

Bill Agee
-- 

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capistrano beach, ca / laguna beach, ca

http://www.redsilver.com

RE: [Digital BW] Print displays

2002-09-17 by Andrew Biggs

Bill-
 
I was in the same dilemma a few weeks ago. I decided to do the
following.
 
I am having a show in Austin, starting next week and until October 2th.
There will be 20 images, 15 in color and 5 in b&w, all printed from my
Epson 2200, and most captured on a Canon D30 or Tri-X on a Canham 4x5.
 
All color prints will be 11x17, 9x17 or 7x17 in size. The b&w prints
will be 11x17 or 9x17. All frames will be 21x27, which is a 5 inch
border on all sides when using an 11x17 print. Obviously, more on top
and bottom for smaller prints.
 
The frames are a Nielson matte black frame, with the whitest mat board I
could find. Americanframe.com is preparing all of these for me: the
metal frames, plexi, 1/8" foamcore, mounting hardware, and custom cut
mats for about $30 per frame. Not bad, in my opinion. I could definitely
do it for less, but I don't have the time right now. I will definitely
invest in a mat cutter and other tools in the future.
 
One thing that I think is incredibly important: I am creating a 10x10
bio with a photo of me and text, printed on glossy Epson paper, and dry
mounted onto gatorfoam, to be displayed on the wall nearest the entrance
of where people will first see the photos. And I also am making 5x5
descriptions of each photo (location, equipment, notes, and price) next
to each image. Since businesses do not want you to mark up their walls,
I am attaching these descriptions with that poster silly putty-like
material, so it will come off easily for my next show. And of course,
the good old fashioned picture hangers for the photos.
 
I hope this helps!
 
If anybody is interested in seeing these images, they will be in the
Dripping Springs public library. Sorry for the shameless plug.
 
:)
 
-Andy

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	-----Original Message-----
	From: Bill Giffen [mailto:wagge@...] 
	Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:18 AM
	To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
	Subject: [Digital BW] Print displays
	
	
	I have just received my 7600 and will be in the process of
supplying prints
	of my photographs to various locations. I will also have a few
gallery
	showings at some of Houston finer Day spas, and restaurants. I
also have
	four retail shops to display my prints, Avis car rental I know
sounds weird)
	several specialty shops and my one big shop in Fredricksburg
Texas.
	
	Question: what sizes should I print. I shoot from a D1x and
shoot full
	frame. 8x12 and 11x17 etc.. , after matting a 11x17 would yield
a 17x23. I
	know in some places this might be a little large (for avis) but
in one day
	spa I have a great brick wall about 30ft with plenty of room.
Should I make
	the largest prints I can to show and maybe have a few smaller
samples prints
	for them to see also. What do you think about retail outlets
8x12 with a few
	largers prints.
	
	also, I have been printing B&W with my 7000 but mainly for
portrait work, I
	have yet to find really good methods to mount the print in my
mats. I have a
	rotor trim and a nice matt cutter. I have taped the prints and
hinged the
	mats, and used corner mounts and taped the matt. There is I am
sure many
	ways to do this but I am still in the dark as to how to present
my prints in
	retail outlets.
	
	I really appreciate any help. I am also posting in other groups
	
	Bill Giffen
	
	some of my prints are at
http://www.pbase.com/wag/my_san_miguel_portfolio
	
	
	
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Epson printer comparisons plus inks

2002-09-17 by Bill Agee

I am looking for feedback from anyone who has used MIS Archival inks 
in a 1270/1280/7000  and now is using a 2200/7600.

For paper I use mostly EAM on the low end and Han Photo Rag 308 on 
the high end..

Though I do some color, I usually print from black and white scanned 
negatives. I print them out as warm or cool black and white or 
heavily toned using the MIS inks.

I am thinking that the new printers with the Epson inks may be the 
answer for what I want with a reasonable archival life.  When the 
printers get chipped, then I could use the MIS inks again if I didn't 
like the results.

What are your feelings about the quality/cost differences using these 
two combinations of inks and printers as they are currenty available?

Bill Agee
-- 

bill agee studio
capistrano beach, ca / laguna beach, ca

http://www.redsilver.com

RE: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks

2002-09-17 by Shire,Stanley

Bill:
I'm using a 1270 with CIS and GEN4 pigs. My 2200 and IP5 comes tomorrow.
I have just printed a variety of color and GS images for comparison.
More as I get the new printer in place and working.
 
 
Stan Shire
Associate Professor/Department Chair
Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
 
215 751-8320
sshire@...

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From: Bill Agee [mailto:billagee@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:43 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks

I am looking for feedback from anyone who has used MIS Archival inks 
in a 1270/1280/7000  and now is using a 2200/7600.

For paper I use mostly EAM on the low end and Han Photo Rag 308 on 
the high end..

Though I do some color, I usually print from black and white scanned 
negatives. I print them out as warm or cool black and white or 
heavily toned using the MIS inks.

I am thinking that the new printers with the Epson inks may be the 
answer for what I want with a reasonable archival life.  When the 
printers get chipped, then I could use the MIS inks again if I didn't 
like the results.

What are your feelings about the quality/cost differences using these 
two combinations of inks and printers as they are currenty available?

Bill Agee
-- 

bill agee studio
capistrano beach, ca / laguna beach, ca

http://www.redsilver.com

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RE: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks

2002-09-17 by Andrew Biggs

Stanley-
 
please please please please post some feedback with IP5 and your 2200. I
have a 2200, and I am waiting to hear from the masses as to a few
things:
 
are the profiles worth the investment?
how are the b&w prints?
toned b&w prints?
support?
 
We are all dying to know!
 
Thanks in advance
 
Andy

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	From: Shire,Stanley [mailto:sshire@...] 
	Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:49 PM
	To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
	Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks
	
	
	Bill:
	I'm using a 1270 with CIS and GEN4 pigs. My 2200 and IP5 comes
tomorrow.
	I have just printed a variety of color and GS images for
comparison.
	More as I get the new printer in place and working.
	
	
	Stan Shire
	Associate Professor/Department Chair
	Photographic Imaging
	Community College of Philadelphia
	Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
	
	215 751-8320
	sshire@...
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Bill Agee [mailto:billagee@...] 
	Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:43 PM
	To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
	Subject: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks
	
	I am looking for feedback from anyone who has used MIS Archival
inks 
	in a 1270/1280/7000  and now is using a 2200/7600.
	
	For paper I use mostly EAM on the low end and Han Photo Rag 308
on 
	the high end..
	
	Though I do some color, I usually print from black and white
scanned 
	negatives. I print them out as warm or cool black and white or 
	heavily toned using the MIS inks.
	
	I am thinking that the new printers with the Epson inks may be
the 
	answer for what I want with a reasonable archival life.  When
the 
	printers get chipped, then I could use the MIS inks again if I
didn't 
	like the results.
	
	What are your feelings about the quality/cost differences using
these 
	two combinations of inks and printers as they are currenty
available?
	
	Bill Agee
	-- 
	
	bill agee studio
	capistrano beach, ca / laguna beach, ca
	
	http://www.redsilver.com
	
	
	
	
	
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Re: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks

2002-09-17 by Shire,Stanley

I'm actually as anxious as you are. 
We have been using IP with our 10000 an are very happy with it. Colorbyte has been very responsive to all questions and their free custom profiles are excellent. 
This copy of IP is on my personal dime so I would have been very hesitant if we hadn't had the very good experience with them.
I've ordered lots of carts (Atlex has a great price) and Enhanced Matte and expect to do a bunch of comparison printing and testing this week with both RGB and gs images.
More to follow.

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From: Andrew Biggs
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks

Stanley-

please please please please post some feedback with IP5 and your 2200. I
have a 2200, and I am waiting to hear from the masses as to a few
things:

are the profiles worth the investment?
how are the b&w prints?
toned b&w prints?
support?

We are all dying to know!

Thanks in advance

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Shire,Stanley [mailto:sshire@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:49 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks

Bill:
I'm using a 1270 with CIS and GEN4 pigs. My 2200 and IP5 comes
tomorrow.
I have just printed a variety of color and GS images for
comparison.
More as I get the new printer in place and working.

Stan Shire
Associate Professor/Department Chair
Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.

215 751-8320
sshire@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Agee [mailto:billagee@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:43 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks

I am looking for feedback from anyone who has used MIS Archival
inks
in a 1270/1280/7000 and now is using a 2200/7600.

For paper I use mostly EAM on the low end and Han Photo Rag 308
on
the high end..

Though I do some color, I usually print from black and white
scanned
negatives. I print them out as warm or cool black and white or
heavily toned using the MIS inks.

I am thinking that the new printers with the Epson inks may be
the
answer for what I want with a reasonable archival life. When
the
printers get chipped, then I could use the MIS inks again if I
didn't
like the results.

What are your feelings about the quality/cost differences using
these
two combinations of inks and printers as they are currenty
available?

Bill Agee
--

bill agee studio
capistrano beach, ca / laguna beach, ca

http://www.redsilver.com

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Re: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks

2002-09-17 by Shire,Stanley

Boo!
Printer won't be in until Friday. Colorbyte is shipping IP5 (desktop version) on Thurs.
Hopefully, a weekend print marathon.
Stan

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From: Shire,Stanley
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks

I'm actually as anxious as you are.
We have been using IP with our 10000 an are very happy with it. Colorbyte has been very responsive to all questions and their free custom profiles are excellent.
This copy of IP is on my personal dime so I would have been very hesitant if we hadn't had the very good experience with them.
I've ordered lots of carts (Atlex has a great price) and Enhanced Matte and expect to do a bunch of comparison printing and testing this week with both RGB and gs images.
More to follow.
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Biggs
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson printer comparisons plus inks