Digital BW, The Print

----- Original Message -----

From: "Albert Wang" <leica_phile@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:17 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Why is a magenta cast in my Epson C80 prints but not
Ilford glossy?


> I am presently using an Epson C80 and so far, printing on the Ilford
> Glossy and Pearl (smooth) papers has been the ideal solution for
> glossy papers. However, I tried to print the pictures (tinted black
> and white) using the same settings apart from changing the paper
> profiling settings on both Heavyweight Matte Paper and Archival
> Matte. The pictures look spectacular under daylight and tungsten
> lighting.
>
> However, when I brought the matte prints under regular bright
> florescent lighting, the prints suffer from a magenta cast which is
> indicative of too much magenta in the pictures from the Epson C80.
> What should I do?
>
> Should I do -10 magenta color correction in the settings before
> printing? Thanks again for your help.
>
> By the way, the magneta cast appears only on matte prints under
> florescent lighting but glossy prints look absolutely fine under any
> lighting conditions. Is it because of the coating?
>
> AW

Albert,

This is one of the great difficulties in achieving neutral or close to
neutral B&W prints with the standard Epson inks or any color ink set. In
order to really optimize it you will probably need some custom printer
profiles made that match your printer and inks to the papers you want to
use.

Generally most people in your position have wound up dedicating another
printer to B&W printing using one of the grayscale ink sets. The new Espon
2200 might offer you a better path for a single printer but custom profiles
or software such as Image Print would still be desirable.

Martin Wesley

Hi Martin,

Thanks for your advice. Of course doing color prints is just as hard 
as black and white printing to be honest :)... I'm just trying to 
figure out how to do better matte prints.

Using the PhotoEnhance4 option very well and the colors turned out a 
lot better :)

Thanks for your advice.

AW
> 
> Albert,
> 
> This is one of the great difficulties in achieving neutral or close 
to
> neutral B&W prints with the standard Epson inks or any color ink 
set. In
> order to really optimize it you will probably need some custom 
printer
> profiles made that match your printer and inks to the papers you 
want to
> use.
> 
> Generally most people in your position have wound up dedicating 
another
> printer to B&W printing using one of the grayscale ink sets. The 
new Espon
> 2200 might offer you a better path for a single printer but custom 
profiles

> or software such as Image Print would still be desirable.
> 
> Martin Wesley

----- Original Message -----
From: "Albert Wang" <leica_phile@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Why is a magenta cast in my Epson C80 prints but
not Ilford glossy?


> Hi Martin,
>
> Thanks for your advice. Of course doing color prints is just as hard
> as black and white printing to be honest :)

Albert,

I find color printing much harder myself. I just don't have any feel for
making color corrections. The technology is much better for color printing
though.

... I'm just trying to
> figure out how to do better matte prints.
>
> Using the PhotoEnhance4 option very well and the colors turned out a
> lot better :)

I'm glad you found something to help with your problem.

Martin
>
> >
> > Albert,
> >
> > This is one of the great difficulties in achieving neutral or close
> to
> > neutral B&W prints with the standard Epson inks or any color ink
> set. In
> > order to really optimize it you will probably need some custom
> printer
> > profiles made that match your printer and inks to the papers you
> want to
> > use.
> >
> > Generally most people in your position have wound up dedicating
> another
> > printer to B&W printing using one of the grayscale ink sets. The
> new Espon
> > 2200 might offer you a better path for a single printer but custom
> profiles
> > or software such as Image Print would still be desirable.
> >
> > Martin Wesley
>
>
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Martin Wesley wrote (under a different heading):
 
> > Generally most people in your position have wound up dedicating
> another
> > printer to B&W printing using one of the grayscale ink sets. The
> new Espon
> > 2200 might offer you a better path for a single printer but custom
> profiles
> > or software such as Image Print would still be desirable.

Pardon my ignorance, but what do you mean? I read other messages too,
suggesting this printer (in Europe it's called the 2100 AFAIK)  can have
both. Does it have the possibility of several gray / black inks AND
several color inks? I thought it was only black and gray, and color.
Confused, Ton Guiking